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[Viewpoint]

So your family has "stolen" property and your mother actually applied for points which are only necessary if want to get GC property so basically you are lieing yet again your whole family has tried or are benefiting from deserted GC property, so you are a liar and a big fat hypocrite.

You are thicker than thick.

No, my mother did not apply for points. They were distributed to each benefactor in the late 90's when the person appointed to handle their parent's assets in the south by receiving points in the north. My mother had no need for stolen GC properties in the north. She has lived in the UK since 1968. My mother is only responsible for herself. We, her children learned from her. You learned from your "father" Denktash on how to steal others properties. We are not responsible what my mother's family members did or did not do. And you are the liar and wrong. Points are not ONLY for receiving stolen GC properties. They can just be sold for cash also, taking pennies on the dollar and those who bought the points can put it towards stolen GC properties.

I have stated many times in the past that I too have family members who are also living in stolen GC properties, but these are not necessarily all bad people, just like many other thousands of unfortunate TCs. They needed a place to live, and this was their only option that their own leaders put them in. Not the thieves like you who came from the UK in the 90's to buy cheap stolen GCs properties. My mother did the only decent thing, which was not to get any stolen GCs properties and also not sell the points which means she has not lost, at least her portion of the family properties in the south. As long as the points are not sold or are put towards stolen GC properties, she still retains ownership of her property in the south.

She went along with the point system just to help out her siblings. The problem for many TCs is, the RoC does not even recognise what the illegal regime did in the north as far as TCs turning over their properties in the south for points in the north and then giving out points to the heirs equally as if it were some kind of a legal probate. Unless the TCs go through probate in the south, the whole exercise is not legal, which means once there is a settlement, many TCs will just abandon their stolen GCs properties in the north and go to the RoC courts to have a probate on their parents/grandparents properties. The only problem is, it is going to be very very very messy, and complicated, because now there are many more people as heirs to the same said properties as there were 40 years ago.

Your mother is as guilty as those you accuse of stealing abandoned GC property, then you have the hypocritical lieing double standards to accuse everyone else regardless of whether they are using old GC property or not that they are thieves, your mother and people like her who dont even reside here signed along the dotted line so her siblings can benefit makes her worse than those that needed accomadation as they lost their property in the South and had nowhere to live. You are now a proven liar, hypocrite and apply extreme double standards to suit your own aims.

So now you are proven to be the liar, saying points are ONLY for buying stolen GC properties.

There is a difference TCs using GCs properties in the north for needed shelter against their properties in the south, just as GCs using TCs properties in the south as needed shelter than those like you coming as a foreigner and all the Illegal Alien settlers and taking over GCs properties in the north, be they be houses, land and businesses, buying and selling to foreigners and living of the GC refugees misery. That's what you do. You cannot equal yourself with those TCs who are just living in stolen GCs properties until they can get theirs back after a settlement. You don't want a settlement, because you want to keep "your" stolen GCs properties. You don't even belong in Cyprus.

Everyone can see you are clutching at straws, finally your mask has well and truely dropped...you are not only a big fat liar but a hypocrite or the worst kind. Please never visit Cyprus and if you should stay south of the border.

[Kikapu]

So your family has "stolen" property and your mother actually applied for points which are only necessary if want to get GC property so basically you are lieing yet again your whole family has tried or are benefiting from deserted GC property, so you are a liar and a big fat hypocrite.

You are thicker than thick.

No, my mother did not apply for points. They were distributed to each benefactor in the late 90's when the person appointed to handle their parent's assets in the south by receiving points in the north. My mother had no need for stolen GC properties in the north. She has lived in the UK since 1968. My mother is only responsible for herself. We, her children learned from her. You learned from your "father" Denktash on how to steal others properties. We are not responsible what my mother's family members did or did not do. And you are the liar and wrong. Points are not ONLY for receiving stolen GC properties. They can just be sold for cash also, taking pennies on the dollar and those who bought the points can put it towards stolen GC properties.

I have stated many times in the past that I too have family members who are also living in stolen GC properties, but these are not necessarily all bad people, just like many other thousands of unfortunate TCs. They needed a place to live, and this was their only option that their own leaders put them in. Not the thieves like you who came from the UK in the 90's to buy cheap stolen GCs properties. My mother did the only decent thing, which was not to get any stolen GCs properties and also not sell the points which means she has not lost, at least her portion of the family properties in the south. As long as the points are not sold or are put towards stolen GC properties, she still retains ownership of her property in the south.

She went along with the point system just to help out her siblings. The problem for many TCs is, the RoC does not even recognise what the illegal regime did in the north as far as TCs turning over their properties in the south for points in the north and then giving out points to the heirs equally as if it were some kind of a legal probate. Unless the TCs go through probate in the south, the whole exercise is not legal, which means once there is a settlement, many TCs will just abandon their stolen GCs properties in the north and go to the RoC courts to have a probate on their parents/grandparents properties. The only problem is, it is going to be very very very messy, and complicated, because now there are many more people as heirs to the same said properties as there were 40 years ago.

Your mother is as guilty as those you accuse of stealing abandoned GC property, then you have the hypocritical lieing double standards to accuse everyone else regardless of whether they are using old GC property or not that they are thieves, your mother and people like her who dont even reside here signed along the dotted line so her siblings can benefit makes her worse than those that needed accomadation as they lost their property in the South and had nowhere to live. You are now a proven liar, hypocrite and apply extreme double standards to suit your own aims.

So now you are proven to be the liar, saying points are ONLY for buying stolen GC properties.

There is a difference TCs using GCs properties in the north for needed shelter against their properties in the south, just as GCs using TCs properties in the south as needed shelter than those like you coming as a foreigner and all the Illegal Alien settlers and taking over GCs properties in the north, be they be houses, land and businesses, buying and selling to foreigners and living of the GC refugees misery. That's what you do. You cannot equal yourself with those TCs who are just living in stolen GCs properties until they can get theirs back after a settlement. You don't want a settlement, because you want to keep "your" stolen GCs properties. You don't even belong in Cyprus.

Everyone can see you are clutching at straws, finally your mask has well and truely dropped...you are not only a big fat liar but a hypocrite or the worst kind. Please never visit Cyprus and if you should stay south of the border.

I don't need to clutch onto straws. I got your ass for that.

I know I'm repeating myself once again from few years ago, but I know your attention span doesn't last more than a day, therefore, you are forgiven.

My mother's siblings were already living in these stolen GCs properties as far back as 1974 when Turkey stole them for Denktash after the invasion. What Denktash did in the 90's was, to scare the TCs shitless, that unless they signed over their properties in the south to the illegal regime in the north, they would be kicked out and have no place to live, so many TCs turned over their properties in the south to the regime with a illegal probate and in return they were given these point to use it towards the stolen properties they had already been living in for many years, and then they were given phony titles to the stolen GCs properties. All my mother did was, in her usual unselfish ways, was to sign on the dotted line to appoint a family member to handle all this so that her siblings and children did not end up homeless. My mother neither got any stolen GC properties for her share of the points nor did she cash them.

The TCs own leaders, where they took the good deeds from the TCs for their properties in the south and gave them stolen properties in the north, led this entire thievery. Why do you think I refer to the north as the "Morally Corrupt Society", is because your corrupt leaders took decent TCs and made them take part in unethical practices, then your criminal kind came to Cyprus to enjoy the Spoils of War and to further make the north a "Morally Corrupt Society". You do not get the name "Pirates of the Mediterranean" for nothing. If I looked up for the definition of “Pirate” in the dictionary, no doubt your picture will come up!

[Viewpoint]

You are unbelievable and still lieing, nobody forced anyone to do anything, people realized and quite rightly that there would never be a solution therefore they would never get their properties back in the south so they exchanged their deeds for points which allowed them to claim deeds of the properties they lived due to the GCs enosis dream and the coup of 1974 which triggered off Turkish intervention according to 1960 guarantee rights. You expect people to be stupid enough to believe your sob story about your mother and her lame excuse that although she doesnt physically reside in a GC property becuase she lives in the UK and has no need but she supported those that wanted to take ownership of deserted GC property, which imo is a far worse act. You Kikapooo have been found out as a liar and hypocrite, your credibility has been shot to pieces and people should not take anything you post seriously.

[Kikapu]

You are unbelievable and still lieing, nobody forced anyone to do anything, people realized and quite rightly that there would never be a solution therefore they would never get their properties back in the south so they exchanged their deeds for points which allowed them to claim deeds of the properties they lived due to the GCs enosis dream and the coup of 1974 which triggered off Turkish intervention according to 1960 guarantee rights. You expect people to be stupid enough to believe your sob story about your mother and her lame excuse that although she doesnt physically reside in a GC property becuase she lives in the UK and has no need but she supported those that wanted to take ownership of deserted GC property, which imo is a far worse act. You Kikapooo have been found out as a liar and hypocrite, your credibility has been shot to pieces and people should not take anything you post seriously.

Yes, you are right, VP, that it must be a common practice around the world that people on their own free will turn over the deeds of their legal properties to illegal regimes for in return the deeds of stolen properties. Really?

You are further correct, that the 1960 agreements gave Turkey the right to invade, kick out 200,000 thousand GCs from their properties and then turn around and give them, sell them, reward them to the Illegal settlers, TCs and foreigners. Really??

[Lordo]

strange thing is if gcs had not taken over the legally elected government in a coup, by now makarios would have driven every single tc out of cyprus. but hey every cloud has a silver lining. as to settlers, all cypriots are settlers going back 10000 years. these things happen once in a while.

[bill cobbett]

strange thing is if gcs had not taken over the legally elected government in a coup, by now makarios would have driven every single tc out of cyprus. but hey every cloud has a silver lining. as to settlers, all cypriots are settlers going back 10000 years. these things happen once in a while.

So why do you chaps hate the Illegal Settlers...??? ...

[Lordo]

ai wach you talkin about

[Nikitas]

Yes, why do the TCs go to extremes to avoid settlers coming next to them? In my grandfathers village and in neighboring ones they demolised half the houses so as not to leave room for settlers. These are TCs mostly from Polis, so maybe it is their local Tillyros culture that is at fault. I am just being sarcastic.

[Kikapu]

Yes, why do the TCs go to extremes to avoid settlers coming next to them? In my grandfathers village and in neighboring ones they demolised half the houses so as not to leave room for settlers. These are TCs mostly from Polis, so maybe it is their local Tillyros culture that is at fault. I am just being sarcastic.

It's because the Turks do not particularly like the TCs either, so it's a two-way street between the Turks and the TCs. The ONLY reason why VP loves the Turks, even when Erdogan calls him a "parasite", and righfully so, it's because they can keep the GCs out of the north so that VP keep the GCs stolen properties at the same time. A win-win al around. So for VP, a little humiliation by the Turks now and then goes a long way to live off the stolen GCs properties.

[Viewpoint]

Yes, why do the TCs go to extremes to avoid settlers coming next to them? In my grandfathers village and in neighboring ones they demolised half the houses so as not to leave room for settlers. These are TCs mostly from Polis, so maybe it is their local Tillyros culture that is at fault. I am just being sarcastic.

It's because the Turks do not particularly like the TCs either, so it's a two-way street between the Turks and the TCs. The ONLY reason why VP loves the Turks, even when Erdogan calls him a "parasite", and righfully so, it's because they can keep the GCs out of the north so that VP keep the GCs stolen properties at the same time. A win-win al around. So for VP, a little humiliation by the Turks now and then goes a long way to live off the stolen GCs properties.

I dont have or use any GC property all my deeds are Turkish title deeds, unlike your family who are all living in GC property today, your mother being the worst parasite for not even needing property but being greedy she didnt want to miss out so she signed these "points" over to her siblings to benefit from GC property, this begs the question then did she exclude you her sibling or have you benefited as well? we all know how much of a hypocrite you really are so what is it? do you have points or did she ignore you as her sibling?