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[miltiades]

I think someone is suggesting that the ....Americans and I Israel ...shot the aircraft down

[Get Real!]

MOSSAD + AMERICA + Boko Haram

http://jgonad.newsvine.com/_news/2014/0 ... eria-video

http://nodisinfo.com/nigerias-boko-hara ... lag-front/

http://nodisinfo.com/nigerias-boko-hara ... lag-front/

http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/05/11/b ... franchise/

[miltiades]

The Israelis invaded cyprus in 1974 and put the blame on ....Turkey
You have lost it Plonker !!

[repulsewarrior]

...the Zionists rule the world? it is hard to believe there is not one Catholic in that group, and as far as the power of money goes, a handful of Atheists too.

Gaza is one of the worst Humanitarian disasters in the world for decades, and it has been the worst this decade, only rivaled by Somolia. my disappointment with Israel, is that their thinking is not new, there is nothing creative or challenging within it, repeating the Realpolitik of today (read: yesterday), we have all come to expect, over and over again, round and round. Bombmaking is the sin, it is not productive thinking, it is Nobility without Grace (Lest we Forget). if anyone (as Persons) know this, it is the Jews, (and the Cypriots, with their long History under subjugation, too); in that regard, more from Israel, (and Cyprus), as thought, I want.

[Paphitis]

...the Zionists rule the world? it is hard to believe there is not one Catholic in that group, and as far as the power of money goes, a handful of Atheists too.

Gaza is one of the worst Humanitarian disasters in the world for decades, and it has been the worst this decade, only rivaled by Somolia. my disappointment with Israel, is that their thinking is not new, there is nothing creative or challenging within it, repeating the Realpolitik of today (read: yesterday), we have all come to expect, over and over again, round and round. Bombmaking is the sin, it is not productive thinking, it is Nobility without Grace (Lest we Forget). if anyone (as Persons) know this, it is the Jews, (and the Cypriots, with their long History under subjugation, too); in that regard, more from Israel, (and Cyprus), as thought, I want.

What exactly do you think the Israelis should do RW? What can they try that has not been tried before?

How can they stop Hamas?

Incidentally, an Airliner was just shot down by Russia with 298 civilian passengers and crew. Aside from that, they are engaging in a massive proxy war against Ukraine and are illegally seizing large parts of Ukrainian Sovereign Territory. It is an invasion not at all dissimilar to the Invasion of Cyprus by Turkey. How many civilian casualties have been lost there?

How does this rate as a Humanitarian Disaster? Or is this one OK because the Russians are involved? Just curious!

Let's not forget that the Ukrainians are Orthodox too! I have heard the most disgusting opinions emanating from Greeks and Cypriots. So easy to point the finger at the US at every opportunity and why let the truth get in the way? We have a silly post above linking Boko Haram to the US and Mossad? Why? Only he knows why Mossad would want to get involved in the shit hole that is Africa.

But when it's the Russians, let's turn a blind eye, or look the other way. They are Orthodox after all. A bit like the situation where some Greeks were volunteering to assist Serbian Militias in Bosnia and engage in disgusting ethnic cleansing and war crimes on a massive scale - the biggest since WW2. Yes our Orthodox Brothers and Greek volunteers would have made Hitler very proud of their efforts, but since they were Orthodox and NATO came to the aid of the Muslims and Ethnic Albanians, then there was even more justification to kill innocent peasants and clear the land, because even the presence of these Muslims and Albanians was an American and Mossad plot to destabilize the Former Yugoslavia. Our Greek Military volunteers, on this occasion were betraying Greece's very NATO alliance. Do you think the US is stupid and they don't know what happened? They know, and they think we are total idiots. They let us get away with it, just to keep some calm, but by all rights, Greece should have been kicked out of NATO for that one! By all rights, the US should have chased a few Greek Military War Criminals too (because we had some war criminals of our own) but the US chose to sweep this under the carpet to protect Greece. Yes they swept this under the carpet and turned a blind eye. Imagine if they didn't. Greece would have disgraced itself internationally, and there would be a few Greeks in the Hague right next to Miroslav Milosevic!

A bit of consistency would be very nice! These tin pot politics make Cyprus and Cypriots look very silly.

[Oceanside50]

https://avimelamed.wordpress.com/tag/al ... que-hotel/

Gaza’s population currently numbers approximately 1.5 million people, about a third of whom reside in Gaza City, in the northern portion of the Strip. Another half million occupy the eight refugee camps located in the central and southern zones. The rest live in Dir Albalch, the southern cities of Khan Yunes and Rafah, or in a variety of scattered agricultural communities.

In whatever setting their lives take place, the vast majority of these Gaza Palestinians exist at a third-world level that western standards would rate as abysmal. And in the four years since Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip, most of its inhabitants have seen no improvement in their living conditions. Instead, the quality of their lives has markedly deteriorated.

By contrast, the leadership of Hamas has, during this same period, grown wealthy and enjoys a lifestyle that first-world ratings would describe as lavish. An article published in Al Ahram, Egypt’s most widely circulated newspaper, on July 18, 2010, confirms this reality. The author, Ashraf Abu Al-Houl, is a widely respected veteran journalist who frequently reports on Gaza. In his essay, “In Actual Terms Gaza Is Not Under Siege”, he says the following:

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/28/egypt ... der-siege/

“A sense of absolute prosperity prevails, as manifested by the grand resorts along and near Gaza’s coast. Further, the sight of the merchandise and luxuries filling the Gaza shops amazed me. Merchandise is sold more cheaply than in Egypt, although most of it is from the Egyptian market, and there are added shipping costs and costs for smuggling it via the tunnels – so that it could be expected to be more expensive.

“Before I judge by appearances, which can be misleading… [I would like to point out that] I toured the new resorts, most of which are quite grand, as well as the commercial markets, to verify my hypothesis. The resorts and markets have come to symbolize prosperity, and prove that the siege is formal or political, not economic. The reality [in Gaza] proves that the siege was broken even before Israel’s crime against the ships of the Freedom Flotilla in late May; everything already was coming into the Gaza Strip from Egypt. If this weren’t the case, businessmen would not have been able to build so many resorts in under four months.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/28/egypt ... z383zoTkgu

[repulsewarrior]

...just google, worst humanitarian disaster, Gaza will be there.

...I would expect Israel, to fight the real enemy in Gaza, I would expect from them to demonstrate the Grace one man can offer another in service to God, to be loving, feeding children and supplying the necessary supplies to Hospitals so that they can heal. and if there is warfare, it is not as mindless as the vicious attacks where it can be said that Jews are murderers of Civilians, or that children are counted in this number, it is silent, and swift. in any case someone must stop, whoever does, will be the better Persons, in my mind.

...indeed, I find it strange too, the relationship that the Republic has chosen, as Governments, and as a State, but I have no real answers. you mention Bosnia, indeed, the same kind of Ignorance there, as was in Cyprus, and that is, in that piece of land the Palestinians fight for with Israel, never mind the Russians in their part of the world, or Syria, where by the same kind of quirk of fate, Cyprus does not seem to be on the "winning" side. it is a 'Realpolitik' that plays out because the roles change, yet, "it", is repeated. the solution, an end to this behaviour does not come from more of the same, choosing one side over the other is not a sufficient way to judge. "who" causes this misery is not so clear, as a fight where there is an "us" or a "them", because the "us" and the "them", is the Human Race in the end, and either "we" as Individuals, have this respect based on Universal Principals, or not; frankly, wait, a "Greek" (or a "Turk") will surely stop, to tell you what you should be thinking about the questions you pose, regarding Cypriot Foreign Affairs, they will surely take the time to stoke the fire for their counterparts, as they feed on each other, (and according to these same "some" here, they may call you as I have been called, a something Zionist something, or a pot-head, a racist, or a dreamer), so I will continue to speak for those of us who wish neither, as they are today, much success.

...briefly, you better not be calling me a "remnant", no "Greek", no "Turk", as a Cypriot, just Cypriot, I like.

[Paphitis]

...just google, worst humanitarian disaster, Gaza will be there.

The action is not exactly a PR success story for Israel that's for sure. There would not be a lot of support for Israel's actions. Maybe just some understanding due to the rocket attacks, but still no one can honestly say with their hand on heart that they support Israel in this. The same applies to Hamas!

The question has to be asked, that if a group of Palestinian Children walked up towards the IDF line, barricades or armoured columns, would their soldiers shoot at them? I would say they wouldn't but they would be searched for bombs and other weapons before being allowed to get behind their positions.

...I would expect Israel, to fight the real enemy in Gaza, I would expect from them to demonstrate the Grace one man can offer another in service to God, to be loving, feeding children and supplying the necessary supplies to Hospitals so that they can heal. and if there is warfare, it is not as mindless as the vicious attacks where it can be said that Jews are murderers of Civilians, or that children are counted in this number, it is silent, and swift. in any case someone must stop, whoever does, will be the better Persons, in my mind.

I seriously doubt the Israeli's are intentionally targeting children or civilians. The area in which Hamas is active is densely populated, and I believe Hamas operate their intentionally so as to ensure civilians and children are killed.

100% it will be Israel that will stop first and suspend its operations in gaza and withdraw. But Hamas has vowed to continue its attacks, so eventually that will just mean that the Israelis will come back in the future.

...indeed, I find it strange too, the relationship that the Republic has chosen, as Governments, and as a State, but I have no real answers. you mention Bosnia, indeed, the same kind of Ignorance there, as was in Cyprus, and that is, in that piece of land the Palestinians fight for with Israel, never mind the Russians in their part of the world, or Syria, where by the same kind of quirk of fate, Cyprus does not seem to be on the "winning" side. it is a 'Realpolitik' that plays out because the roles change, yet, "it", is repeated. the solution, an end to this behaviour does not come from more of the same, choosing one side over the other is not a sufficient way to judge. "who" causes this misery is not so clear, as a fight where there is an "us" or a "them", because the "us" and the "them", is the Human Race in the end, and either "we" as Individuals, have this respect based on Universal Principals, or not; frankly, wait, a "Greek" (or a "Turk") will surely stop, to tell you what you should be thinking about the questions you pose, regarding Cypriot Foreign Affairs, they will surely take the time to stoke the fire for their counterparts, as they feed on each other, (and according to these same "some" here, they may call you as I have been called, a something Zionist something, or a pot-head, a racist, or a dreamer), so I will continue to speak for those of us who wish neither, as they are today, much success.

I am not talking about the RoC's international relations. In the end, Cyprus is an equal to other EU countries and needs to follow closely its EU partners. We are one of the same as with UK, Germany, Holland, France and Italy. We should be following a similar pattern to them. Relations to the East are important too, and that includes Israel. in fact that relationship is critical. Does not mean that the RoC must condone Israel's actions.

I was referring more to the tin pot politics of many Cypriot people. It just doesn't make any sense to me. It is wishy washy, hypocritical, inconsistent which also means we as Cypriots have reduced credibility.

I find it interesting how we do not seem to be as critical towards Russia, which has been acting as a much bigger bully than Israel has. On par, their actions are akin to Turkey. I mentioned Bosnia, because our views just don't seem to stack up well when scrutinized.

...briefly, you better not be calling me a "remnant", no "Greek", no "Turk", as a Cypriot, just Cypriot, I like.

Why would I do that RW? I am not prepared to call you anything because you don't deserve it.

Cypriot is fine by me.

[Get Real!]

By contrast, the leadership of Hamas has, during this same period, grown wealthy and enjoys a lifestyle that first-world ratings would describe as lavish. An article published in Al Ahram, Egypt’s most widely circulated newspaper, on July 18, 2010, confirms this reality. The author, Ashraf Abu Al-Houl, is a widely respected veteran journalist who frequently reports on Gaza. In his essay, “In Actual Terms Gaza Is Not Under Siege”, he says the following:

And the crux of your post is what exactly?

That Hamas members are so rich that Israel is justified in its war crimes against the Palestinians?

If not then what exactly is the message you tried to get across with your post?

I’m baffled… I won't even mention your Jewish source or the anomaly of quoting an “Egyptian” criticizing Palestinians and praising Israel!

[Get Real!]

How can they stop Hamas?

Stop Hamas from what exactly?

And while you're at it let's reverse that question... How can Hamas stop the criminal Israeli regime?