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[miltiades]

You are talking a load of rubbish, nothing odd since you your self is rubbish.
Your hatred of the USA, the West, and Israel clouds your judgement, that is if you posess any.

I suggested many times that you ought to join Hamas and the Jihadists and blow your self up.

Israel is Cypru's friend and the USA is becoming closer. Idiots exist everywhere, you are the chief of them all. Hurry up, go join your brothers in Syria, after all who knows you may just be half ...Syrian.

[Paphitis]

The US and Israel have a long criminal record of cold blooded murder to further their expansionism and they would not hesitate to take out anyone if they think it’ll weaken their enemy or presumed enemy.

OK sure!

Who are they planning to "take out"?

300 civilian passengers is NOTHING for the likes of Israel and the US… in Iraq alone they murdered close to 2 million people yet slept like babies at night!

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ ... uals/page1

So to recap…

Q. Who has the motive to smear Russia?
A. The US/Israel.

So who shot it down? The umpa lumpas?

Q. Who stands to gain from smearing Russia?
A. The US/Israel.

It's got nothing to do with any gain but the sovereignty of the Ukraine. Either there sovereignty is sacred or its not!

Secondly, it was a crime, and the international community will ensure that there is a price to pay.

Russia is not welcome to the G20 summit in Australia. Russian Diplomats have been banned from entering the country.

Q. Who has the resources and experience to pull it off?
A. The US/Israel.

Even Cyprus has the BUK M1 hence they too have the resources. But the RoC didn't shoot it down did they?

Q. Who has the track record of such acts?
A. The US/Israel.

Here we go!

And just hours later when no investigation has even began let alone conclude, the US is quick on the draw in the media…

“Obama says downing of plane a 'wake-up call' for Europe over Ukraine conflict”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/ ... 4620140719

So by murdering 300 odd European civilians the US is hoping that European countries will be angry and cut off ties with Russia so as to weaken the US’ enemy!

And it wouldn’t be the first time that the US has shot down a civilian plane…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Yes well, at least 2 European countries will be extremely angry - UK and Netherlands.

All they need to do is pull the Germans and the Russian economy is stuffed well and truly because Japan, US, Canada and Australia are already implementing sanctions. Don't worry, I don't think they care if Cyprus continues to export some Kolokasi to Russia!

Oh wait, it was the RoC that initially moved the motion to introduce sanctions and pass UN resolution 68/262.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nat ... ion_68/262

So let's hear it! Does this UN Resolution apply to Russia? YES or NO?

[kurupetos]

Dirty b*stards

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/17/photo-of-the-day-israeli-kids-sends-gifts-of-love-to-arab-kids/

[Paphitis]

Dirty b*stards

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/17/photo-of-the-day-israeli-kids-sends-gifts-of-love-to-arab-kids/

I suppose many people are capable of hate. It all depends on your anger which might depend on whether rockets have fallen in your general direction.

However, we should not be so quick to call these kids dirty bastards when we have more than enough dirty bastards of our own. You see, it must have been ok in your book when Greek Militias and Sampsons murderous killing squads were going through TC villages such as Tochni, Sandalar etc ...

Do you remember when you were posting support for Orthodox Serbian Militias ethnically cleansing Bosnia of Muslims and Ethnic Albanians? That was ok was it not? It's ok because the Serbs are your Orthodox brothers.

Dirty Bastard!

[Jerry]

The arguments as to the rights and wrongs can go on ad infinitum. However there can be no doubt that Israel is wrong in its colonisation of the West Bank (ring a bell?). Taking someone else's property, kicking them off their land is a crime (ring a bell?).

Israel is successfully defending itself with its Iron dome, the Israelis may be scared by the incoming rockets but they are not being slaughtered in their hundreds. The real crime here is the disproportionate force being used by one side regardless of the number of innocent victims killed and maimed.

If the Greek Cypriots lived in despair as the Palestinians do in the shithole that is Gaza I imagine we would be resisting our oppressor in a like manner - we don't because we have too much to lose.

[Paphitis]

The arguments as to the rights and wrongs can go on ad infinitum. However there can be no doubt that Israel is wrong in its colonisation of the West Bank (ring a bell?). Taking someone else's property, kicking them off their land is a crime (ring a bell?).

Israel is successfully defending itself with its Iron dome, the Israelis may be scared by the incoming rockets but they are not being slaughtered in their hundreds. The real crime here is the disproportionate force being used by one side regardless of the number of innocent victims killed and maimed.

If the Greek Cypriots lived in despair as the Palestinians do in the shithole that is Gaza I imagine we would be resisting our oppressor in a like manner - we don't because we have too much to lose.

We lost 37% of our country.

Is there more to lose than that?

Yes we are fully aware of the settlements in the West Bank. It is an illegality which needs to be sorted with negotiations and then a complete withdraw but there is not much chance of that in the near future.

The conflict could go on ad infinitum. The only way is to impose sanctions on Israel but are you sure that Hamas will cease its shenanigans?

[Paphitis]

The arguments as to the rights and wrongs can go on ad infinitum. However there can be no doubt that Israel is wrong in its colonisation of the West Bank (ring a bell?). Taking someone else's property, kicking them off their land is a crime (ring a bell?).

Israel is successfully defending itself with its Iron dome, the Israelis may be scared by the incoming rockets but they are not being slaughtered in their hundreds. The real crime here is the disproportionate force being used by one side regardless of the number of innocent victims killed and maimed.

If the Greek Cypriots lived in despair as the Palestinians do in the shithole that is Gaza I imagine we would be resisting our oppressor in a like manner - we don't because we have too much to lose.

You got to give the Palestinians a lot of credit. They are fighting for their country against awful odds. It's admirable. I do not condone any of the Israeli bombings or the killing of civilians. Nothing can justify that injustice and Israel should be held accountable by the UN in my opinion. Their cries of self Defence kind of gives them some justification which is why it is hard to accuse them of war crimes in this instance.

[Jerry]

The arguments as to the rights and wrongs can go on ad infinitum. However there can be no doubt that Israel is wrong in its colonisation of the West Bank (ring a bell?). Taking someone else's property, kicking them off their land is a crime (ring a bell?).

Israel is successfully defending itself with its Iron dome, the Israelis may be scared by the incoming rockets but they are not being slaughtered in their hundreds. The real crime here is the disproportionate force being used by one side regardless of the number of innocent victims killed and maimed.

If the Greek Cypriots lived in despair as the Palestinians do in the shithole that is Gaza I imagine we would be resisting our oppressor in a like manner - we don't because we have too much to lose.

We lost 37% of our country.

Is there more to lose than that?

Yes we are fully aware of the settlements in the West Bank. It is an illegality which needs to be sorted with negotiations and then a complete withdraw but there is not much chance of that in the near future.


The conflict could go on ad infinitum. The only way is to impose sanctions on Israel but are you sure that Hamas will cease its shenanigans?

Had the "boys" done what they threatened to do post "partition" then I'm sure we would have lost much more. I clearly remember them threatening to carry out guerilla attacks in the north but changed their minds when Turkey said it would respond by moving further south.
There's no chance of Israeli withdrawal from the settlements unless the US orders them to and puts pressure on them to comply.

[Paphitis]

The arguments as to the rights and wrongs can go on ad infinitum. However there can be no doubt that Israel is wrong in its colonisation of the West Bank (ring a bell?). Taking someone else's property, kicking them off their land is a crime (ring a bell?).

Israel is successfully defending itself with its Iron dome, the Israelis may be scared by the incoming rockets but they are not being slaughtered in their hundreds. The real crime here is the disproportionate force being used by one side regardless of the number of innocent victims killed and maimed.

If the Greek Cypriots lived in despair as the Palestinians do in the shithole that is Gaza I imagine we would be resisting our oppressor in a like manner - we don't because we have too much to lose.

We lost 37% of our country.

Is there more to lose than that?

Yes we are fully aware of the settlements in the West Bank. It is an illegality which needs to be sorted with negotiations and then a complete withdraw but there is not much chance of that in the near future.


The conflict could go on ad infinitum. The only way is to impose sanctions on Israel but are you sure that Hamas will cease its shenanigans?

Had the "boys" done what they threatened to do post "partition" then I'm sure we would have lost much more. I clearly remember them threatening to carry out guerilla attacks in the north but changed their minds when Turkey said it would respond by moving further south.
There's no chance of Israeli withdrawal from the settlements unless the US orders them to and puts pressure on them to comply.

We should have stayed put but not do any guerrilla stuff until the Cyprus National Guard an establish its permanent defences, if at all that is. It would have been difficult for Turkey if 180,000 of our citizens stayed put.

On your second point, I believe the US is more than willing to apply as much pressure on Israel to withdraw from the West Bank. In fact, the US is Israel's biggest critic and it condemns any new settlements. The intention of course is to try and achieve a peace settlement whereby a Palestinian State will be formed and be a full member of the UN. I think the 1967 boundaries are the end game goal but it is hard to get the Israelis and Palestinians to even talk to each other.

The Israelis have told the Americans to jam it a number if times! Audacious but that is the reality!

[Jerry]

The arguments as to the rights and wrongs can go on ad infinitum. However there can be no doubt that Israel is wrong in its colonisation of the West Bank (ring a bell?). Taking someone else's property, kicking them off their land is a crime (ring a bell?).

Israel is successfully defending itself with its Iron dome, the Israelis may be scared by the incoming rockets but they are not being slaughtered in their hundreds. The real crime here is the disproportionate force being used by one side regardless of the number of innocent victims killed and maimed.

If the Greek Cypriots lived in despair as the Palestinians do in the shithole that is Gaza I imagine we would be resisting our oppressor in a like manner - we don't because we have too much to lose.

You got to give the Palestinians a lot of credit. They are fighting for their country against awful odds. It's admirable. I do not condone any of the Israeli bombings or the killing of civilians. Nothing can justify that injustice and Israel should be held accountable by the UN in my opinion. Their cries of self Defence kind of gives them some justification which is why it is hard to accuse them of war crimes in this instance.

Their defence is out of all proportion to the action of Hamas, they appear to believe that one Israeli life is worth 1000 Palestinians, that their right to life is greater than anyone else's.