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[MrH]

SOURCE:
http://famagusta-gazette.com/us-vice-pr ... 297-69.htm

Biden Says:
"US Vice President Joe Biden reaffirmed the United States` strong support for a settlement to reunify Cyprus as a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with political equality, during a telephone conversation with PresidentAnastasiades."

I rest my case for the future, do you?

[Kikapu]

SOURCE:
http://famagusta-gazette.com/us-vice-pr ... 297-69.htm

Biden Says:
"US Vice President Joe Biden reaffirmed the United States` strong support for a settlement to reunify Cyprus as a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with political equality, during a telephone conversation with PresidentAnastasiades."

I rest my case for the future, do you?

So what's new?

In the USA all 50 states are politically equal to each other, but ONLY at the Upper House. What makes you think that's not what Biden is talking about?

[repulsewarrior]

...or in Canada, where there is a Federal Government that is strong, and Constituencies, being Bicommunal and Bizonal.

[Viewpoint]

We are neither USA or Canada and our upper house should incorporate minimums from states necessary to pass any new legistlation.

[MrH]

What you have all said is very much valid, and hopeful, but impossible in th eyes of the Greek Cypriots as they do not see us as political "Equals" on this island. And, still felt it necessary In rejecting the 2004 Annan Plan, even though it still felt short of our required securities and guarantees.

This is why the talks will always fail in the search of a BBF.

The Greek Cypriots have the luxury of rejecting and walking away of years of failed talks and plans with their internationally recognised ROC IN TACT, while it's the Turkish Cypriots who are still yet in securing their rights and liberties on all angles. That is why, knowing of the same outcome year after year, the Turkish Cypriots have resigned to accepting their overall fait of assimilation with Turkey as the ultimate alternative. The outcome of the Cyprus Gas venture is the bottom line for the Cyprus issue, where I hope the Greek Cypriots have done their Political Homework correctly? With the up and coming Turkish and New northern Iraq's Kurdistan and their Oil pipeline venture through Turkey, and Israel's new Turkish pipeline agreement, south Cyprus's hopes for a strong-hold on Turkey appears to be quickly sliding.

Political Equality in Cyprus for the TCs......I seriously believe that it's no longer possible with today's Greek Cypriot world.

[boulio]

Political equality as the UN defines it and how the tc define are not the same thing

[repulsewarrior]

What you have all said is very much valid, and hopeful, but impossible in th eyes of the Greek Cypriots as they do not see us as political "Equals" on this island. And, still felt it necessary In rejecting the 2004 Annan Plan, even though it still felt short of our required securities and guarantees.

This is why the talks will always fail in the search of a BBF.

The Greek Cypriots have the luxury of rejecting and walking away of years of failed talks and plans with their internationally recognised ROC IN TACT, while it's the Turkish Cypriots who are still yet in securing their rights and liberties on all angles. That is why, knowing of the same outcome year after year, the Turkish Cypriots have resigned to accepting their overall fait of assimilation with Turkey as the ultimate alternative. The outcome of the Cyprus Gas venture is the bottom line for the Cyprus issue, where I hope the Greek Cypriots have done their Political Homework correctly? With the up and coming Turkish and New northern Iraq's Kurdistan and their Oil pipeline venture through Turkey, and Israel's new Turkish pipeline agreement, south Cyprus's hopes for a strong-hold on Turkey appears to be quickly sliding.

Political Equality in Cyprus for the TCs......I seriously believe that it's no longer possible with today's Greek Cypriot world.

I would say MrH that you should let the Greeks as you say, speak for themselves. and, since you are well connected, perhaps you may suggest that Mr. Eroglu can stand in front of a Cypriot Flag once in a while, dear Mr. Biden would be impressed with that. it, a solution, is impossible, perhaps with people like you, what seems to be nothing more than a wind up artist, thank goodness there is a whole array of people out there who make up the world called Cypriot.

[Oceanside50]

What you have all said is very much valid, and hopeful, but impossible in th eyes of the Greek Cypriots as they do not see us as political "Equals" on this island. And, still felt it necessary In rejecting the 2004 Annan Plan, even though it still felt short of our required securities and guarantees.

This is why the talks will always fail in the search of a BBF.

The Greek Cypriots have the luxury of rejecting and walking away of years of failed talks and plans with their internationally recognised ROC IN TACT, while it's the Turkish Cypriots who are still yet in securing their rights and liberties on all angles. That is why, knowing of the same outcome year after year, the Turkish Cypriots have resigned to accepting their overall fait of assimilation with Turkey as the ultimate alternative. The outcome of the Cyprus Gas venture is the bottom line for the Cyprus issue, where I hope the Greek Cypriots have done their Political Homework correctly? With the up and coming Turkish and New northern Iraq's Kurdistan and their Oil pipeline venture through Turkey, and Israel's new Turkish pipeline agreement, south Cyprus's hopes for a strong-hold on Turkey appears to be quickly sliding.

Political Equality in Cyprus for the TCs......I seriously believe that it's no longer possible with today's Greek Cypriot world.

Who are you kidding mrH or can we call you mr Hazos..

The Turkish army and it's settlers are on stolen land while the Tc are listening to Turkish propaganda and false promises. 90 percent of the occupied ares belongs to Greek Cyps and the Orthodox Church. Political equality is not as important as individual equality, which comes through following the rule of law and respect of civil and human rights. Again people are being misguided by Turkish propaganda, which uses fear and false promises to get its point across.

[Kikapu]

We are neither USA or Canada and our upper house should incorporate minimums from states necessary to pass any new legistlation.

Well, Biden is from the states and and what political equality of each state means to him is not what you are talking about.

[Viewpoint]

We are neither USA or Canada and our upper house should incorporate minimums from states necessary to pass any new legistlation.

Well, Biden is from the states and and what political equality of each state means to him is not what you are talking about.

Biden only reconfirms what is on the negotiating table, BBF with political equality of the two states, if you understand what BBF is then all that remains to be negotiated is political as per the special needs of a new united Cyprus, one size does not fit all, the international community are well aware of this fact thats why they supported the AP.