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[MrH]

18% (GC proposed land to the Turkish Cypriots) and Majority
The Greek Cypriot argument on Territorial adjustment and Governmental (chapter) for any future Federal based Cyprus Settlement concerning "Majority Rule" and "Population" numbers is completely contrary to the ethos and establishment of EU Law; being that all 27 members are Equal! If that were the case, Greece would probably have almost No MEPS or Voting rights besides the likes of the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain.....and many more.

Turkey
Turkey is not in the EU, thus an agreement with an EU - based country without Turkey (without Guarantor to it) is futile! If Turkey were in the EU, then perhaps the subject of Guarantorship could be swayed, but at this moment in time, it's like asking America to give up its rights on the Hawaiian islands because it's not in Asia!


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[boulio]

my theory concerning land distrubtuion if there every wasa a agreed partition would not be on population figure but on land ownership.

if the gc owned 60% and the tc 12% as were the figures i believe the 28% that is govt and church land would need to be equated.is it a 50/50% split,is it a 70/30%(reflecting the tc participation in the govt in 1960)or 82/18% whiich is the popualtion percetange of each

in a settlemtnet with the above numbers the tc state would be

a)26% of land
b)20.4% of land
c)17% of land

[zan]

my theory concerning land distrubtuion if there every wasa a agreed partition would not be on population figure but on land ownership.

if the gc owned 60% and the tc 12% as were the figures i believe the 28% that is govt and church land would need to be equated.is it a 50/50% split,is it a 70/30%(reflecting the tc participation in the govt in 1960)or 82/18% whiich is the popualtion percetange of each

in a settlemtnet with the above numbers the tc state would be

a)26% of land
b)20.4% of land
c)17% of land

Not as easy as that boulio. There is the intimidation on TCs to sell land that went on for decades and then there is Evkaf land.

If we are to look to the future though, we cannot be expected to stay 18% forever. It is no better than the siege at the moment. It also does not look good for unification as GCs see it with a TC minority status and GCs governing. Would we then be limited to how many TCs are allowed on the island? Is that not racism and contrary to EU law? So these figures are useless with respect. What we need is mature reasoning in that the North has enough to do what it has to do to prosper. The point that others make about small islands like Malta doing just well can also be applied to the GC side. Why would they need all that land if success can be achieved with less. What's good for the goose etc......it then goes on to the outrageous demand to send back "settlers". If we are to run our own affairs and grow and prosper then we decide who we allow in or out and it has nothing to do with the south. It's like saying, we don't like these guys so get rid of them and start again..... Why?

[boulio]

evkaf land was settleted in 1959 Zan,if tc were intimidated to sell then im sorry but the sale went thru and was registered with the land registry as was the evkaf land which amount to not even 1% of the total land of cyprus.The british paid 1.5 million sterling to kutchuk and dektash in 1959 and the echr a few years ago ruled in lordos vs turkey that varosha is not evkaf land so stop learn the facts.

[zan]

evkaf land was settleted in 1959 Zan,if tc were intimidated to sell then im sorry but the sale went thru and was registered with the land registry as was the evkaf land which amount to not even 1% of the total land of cyprus.The british paid 1.5 million sterling to kutchuk and dektash in 1959 and the echr a few years ago ruled in lordos vs turkey that varosha is not evkaf land so stop learn the facts.

Not all true according to a man I met who is part of it all but again let's look to the future. What about the rest?

[boulio]

What about land distribution zan ?the fifth rail of the tc that they can't even discuss

[zan]

What about land distribution zan ?the fifth rail of the tc that they can't even discuss

I'm asking you. You made a statement and I want to know what you think about what I said.

[Sotos]

EU is a club of countries that joined voluntarily their own territories. How is that related to Cyprus??? The whole territory of Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots while the north is illegally occupied by foreigners. So it should be 100% to the Cypriots, 0% to the foreign invaders.

[zan]

EU is a club of countries that joined voluntarily their own territories. How is that related to Cyprus??? The whole territory of Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots while the north is illegally occupied by foreigners. So it should be 100% to the Cypriots, 0% to the foreign invaders.

Makarios "joined" voluntarily to a partnership in 1960.

[Sotos]

EU is a club of countries that joined voluntarily their own territories. How is that related to Cyprus??? The whole territory of Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots while the north is illegally occupied by foreigners. So it should be 100% to the Cypriots, 0% to the foreign invaders.

Makarios "joined" voluntarily to a partnership in 1960.

A "partnership" were you are the minor "partners" with no right to rule ANY part of Cyprus since the WHOLE of Cyprus can be ruled ONLY by a native Cypriot.