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[boulio]

do me a favor dont tell me were to post understood?

by insisting on a bbf you make the gc vote as a community.the gc now vote on ideology a rasist bbf will make the electorate one but thats what you want dont you?to ethnic electorates equal/even if they are not.

[Viewpoint]

Why are you people having so much problem understanding what erol is saying? do you support giving the GCs the right to shit all over the TCs when and how they wish? YES or NO, because basically thats what Sotos wants.

[erolz66]

do me a favor dont tell me were to post understood?

If you do me the favour of not telling me to stop posting about 50 years ago, then sure.

by insisting on a bbf you make the gc vote as a community.the gc now vote on ideology a rasist bbf will make the electorate one but thats what you want dont you?to ethnic electorates equal/even if they are not.

Have you READ what I have posted here ? I have EXPLICITLY and more than once, if Sotos could only accept that my community has a right to resist the imposition of a purely GC desire on my community without any regard for my communities wishes ONLY when it is the will of only your community because of ethnicity and not the will of a majority regardless of ethnicity , I would accept a Cyprus without bi zonality, without federation and with bi communality limited to that one senario and only that one scenario and you argument in return starts with 'by insisting on a BBF' ?

[Sotos]

Sotos you make it absolutely clear that what you want is a form of democracy that gives your community the right to dominate ours in our own shared homeland without any let or hindrance at all any time you want. You claim you want this and nothing else not because it would allow your community to dominate ours but because it is 'normal', a claim that is bullshit. You want it BECAUSE it would allow your community the ability to dominate ours and that is what you want and have always wanted. As I have said from the beginning, this insitance is at the heart of why Cyprus is in the mess it is today and why the chances of a settlement (other than agreed partition) remains remote. If you had been willing to accept that actually you do not have a right to a system that allows you to dominate us without any let or hindrance then we would not be in shit we are today.

What I want is a NORMAL democracy. How can you blame me for wanting what is the NORM?? You want something tailor made to suit ONLY YOU and you are trying to force it on us like you forced your rule on us for several centuries.

No your version of what should happen in Scotland is everyone in the UK would vote to decide if the Scots can have independence. Your version would basically say that the English as a numerical majority will effectively decide if the Scots have independence. Your argument is that any time the English want something different to the Scots because they are English and not Scottish, then the English should always get their wishes and the scots never get theirs, because this is 'normal'. That is your argument and its a stupid applied to the UK as it is to Cyprus.

Scotland belongs first and above all to its native people just like Cyprus belongs first and above all to its native people. The Scots should be able to decide where Scotland should or shouldn't belong. Other groups within Scotland (such as the English of Scotland and other minorities) can have as individuals an EQUAL vote... but they can not IMPOSE their will on the native majority of Scotland. The EXACT same thing is true for Cyprus. And actually the exact same thing should be true for Kurdistand as well!

Your minority is nothing like "Scotland" or "Wallonia"!! And sometimes you even compare yourselves to a country for fucks sake!! ... giving as an example the relationship between EU countries!!! Not only you don't have a territory of your own but most importantly you are an ethnic minority created during the last centuries as a result of foreign conquest and colonialism!

[Viewpoint]

Sums it up really, this pathetic excuse for a person wants to be allowed to shit all over us when ever and how ever he wants....long live the TRNC.

[boulio]

Sums it up really, this pathetic excuse for a person wants to be allowed to shit all over us when ever and how ever he wants....long live the TRNC.

Lol because we wants democratic rights ?

[Viewpoint]

Sums it up really, this pathetic excuse for a person wants to be allowed to shit all over us when ever and how ever he wants....long live the TRNC.

Lol because we wants democratic rights ?

Does that mean he can shit all over us because we are TCs? so do you agree with him? Erol has explained there are democracies whaich have developed due to past problems and ethnic population eg Belgium Switzerland Canada UK USA, yet you still insist on being allowed to shit all over us, all we are asking for is a democracy where this is not possible, it sounds to me your intentions are sincere and given the freedom to do as you wish you would shit all over us. We TCs should take this very serious and ask for many more checks and balances to force GCs into a position where they never ever have the opportunity to shit all over us.

[boulio]

do me a favor dont tell me were to post understood?

If you do me the favour of not telling me to stop posting about 50 years ago, then sure.

by insisting on a bbf you make the gc vote as a community.the gc now vote on ideology a rasist bbf will make the electorate one but thats what you want dont you?to ethnic electorates equal/even if they are not.

Have you READ what I have posted here ? I have EXPLICITLY and more than once, if Sotos could only accept that my community has a right to resist the imposition of a purely GC desire on my community without any regard for my communities wishes ONLY when it is the will of only your community because of ethnicity and not the will of a majority regardless of ethnicity , I would accept a Cyprus without bi zonality, without federation and with bi communality limited to that one senario and only that one scenario and you argument in return starts with 'by insisting on a BBF' ?

I tell you to stop posting things 50 years ago because you use it to justify the current situation.so anything that happens in cyprus needs the approval of both communities is your argument?

[Viewpoint]

boulio please keep up thats not what hes saying.

[boulio]

Sums it up really, this pathetic excuse for a person wants to be allowed to shit all over us when ever and how ever he wants....long live the TRNC.

Lol because we wants democratic rights ?

Does that mean he can shit all over us because we are TCs? so do you agree with him? Erol has explained there are democracies whaich have developed due to past problems and ethnic population eg Belgium Switzerland Canada UK USA, yet you still insist on being allowed to shit all over us, all we are asking for is a democracy where this is not possible, it sounds to me your intentions are sincere and given the freedom to do as you wish you would shit all over us. We TCs should take this very serious and ask for many more checks and balances to force GCs into a position where they never ever have the opportunity to shit all over us.

All those federations you talk about above don't have internal restrictions on there own citizens and have not stolen properties to justify the federation.