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[Nikitas]

Press reports today reveal that the TC negotiator has asked that Cyprus should have two EU Commissioners, one GC on TC.

This is the TC interpretation of what a Federation means.

In the EU each member state appoints ONE commissioner, not one for each of its federal states if it happens to be a federation. So Germany, the largest, richest EU member, that also happens to be a federation appoints ONE Commisioner, as does Malta with its 300 000 inhabitants.

Obviously the EU is not going to change its structure to accommodate Cypriot demands. And that raises the question why is one negotiating side asking the other to agree to the impossible knowing that it is objectively unreachable?

[Geoff1131]

Nikitas, I agree with you, the request will not be considered. Just as the Greek side saying that Turkey should open its ports to South Cyprus ships and aircraft, will not be considered. Each side is making demands on the other side which they know will lead to a breakdown in the talks.

Here is a novel idea. Why dont the North keep the land that they have now and the South keep the land that they have now. Lift the borders ie allow trade and exchange between the two sides as in England Scotland and Wales etc. Then will can all live happily ever after.

[zan]

I agree. The EU have always done what's right

[Oceanside50]

Nikitas, I agree with you, the request will not be considered. Just as the Greek side saying that Turkey should open its ports to South Cyprus ships and aircraft, will not be considered. Each side is making demands on the other side which they know will lead to a breakdown in the talks.

Here is a novel idea. Why dont the North keep the land that they have now and the South keep the land that they have now. Lift the borders ie allow trade and exchange between the two sides as in England Scotland and Wales etc. Then will can all live happily ever after.

Follow the rule of law and show you want to protect civil and human rights by withdrawing all Turk troops and settlers and have all go back to their villages..solving a problem by violating people's rights is a good way to continue rights violations...

[zan]

Nikitas, I agree with you, the request will not be considered. Just as the Greek side saying that Turkey should open its ports to South Cyprus ships and aircraft, will not be considered. Each side is making demands on the other side which they know will lead to a breakdown in the talks.

Here is a novel idea. Why dont the North keep the land that they have now and the South keep the land that they have now. Lift the borders ie allow trade and exchange between the two sides as in England Scotland and Wales etc. Then will can all live happily ever after.

Follow the rule of law and show you want to protect civil and human rights by withdrawing all Turk troops and settlers and have all go back to their villages..solving a problem by violating people's rights is a good way to continue rights violations...

We could always do it your way break the law then get the law changed to fit

[Oceanside50]

Nikitas, I agree with you, the request will not be considered. Just as the Greek side saying that Turkey should open its ports to South Cyprus ships and aircraft, will not be considered. Each side is making demands on the other side which they know will lead to a breakdown in the talks.

Here is a novel idea. Why dont the North keep the land that they have now and the South keep the land that they have now. Lift the borders ie allow trade and exchange between the two sides as in England Scotland and Wales etc. Then will can all live happily ever after.

Follow the rule of law and show you want to protect civil and human rights by withdrawing all Turk troops and settlers and have all go back to their villages..solving a problem by violating people's rights is a good way to continue rights violations...

We could always do it your way break the law then get the law changed to fit

Follow the rule of law and show you want to protect civil and human rights by withdrawing all Turk troops and settlers and have all go back to their villages..solving a problem by violating people's rights is a good way to continue rights violations...

Thanks for agreeing Zan...injustices lead to more injustices

[zan]

Nikitas, I agree with you, the request will not be considered. Just as the Greek side saying that Turkey should open its ports to South Cyprus ships and aircraft, will not be considered. Each side is making demands on the other side which they know will lead to a breakdown in the talks.

Here is a novel idea. Why dont the North keep the land that they have now and the South keep the land that they have now. Lift the borders ie allow trade and exchange between the two sides as in England Scotland and Wales etc. Then will can all live happily ever after.

Follow the rule of law and show you want to protect civil and human rights by withdrawing all Turk troops and settlers and have all go back to their villages..solving a problem by violating people's rights is a good way to continue rights violations...

We could always do it your way break the law then get the law changed to fit

Follow the rule of law and show you want to protect civil and human rights by withdrawing all Turk troops and settlers and have all go back to their villages..solving a problem by violating people's rights is a good way to continue rights violations...

Thanks for agreeing Zan...injustices lead to more injustices

You are welcome I think

[Nikitas]

A- the GC side has not introduced the Ankara protocols (allowing Cyprus registered ships and planes in Turkish space) in the intercommunal talks.

B- The TC demand for two commissioners is basically asking the GC side to change the rules of the EU which involve 27 other independent nations and the fundamental structure of the EU. If the GC side had the power to bring about such changes, like compelling Germany, France, the UK, to do GC bidding, we would not need to enter into negotiations with anyone over anything!

C- Anyone who thinks that the present territorial situation can ever be legalised is dreaming or is a racist asshole who thinks that one community can have twice the per capita territory of all the others.

There is one possibility I do not want to consider, that the TCs actually believe you can storm into an EU heads of state meeting and put such a demand on the table! Is it really possible a negotiator can be that dumb?

The other explanation is to demand the impossible, to lead the talks to failure blamed on the "other side", in which case would be who? Obviously not the GCs, who cannot change zilch in the EU, not the EU since it is not in the talks, not the major EU nations., so who would be the culprit other than the one who thought of the demand!

The situation reminds me of the Greek saying, about the zucchini rising up to f**** the grocer.

[Viewpoint]

Can someone provide a credible link which confirms that TCs are making such a claim? otherwise this is all bullshit.

[zan]

Can someone provide a credible link which confirms that TCs are making such a claim? otherwise this is all bullshit.

Most here thrive on the stuff VP