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[Paphitis]

it is not enough they lock people up and throw away the key without telling them what it is they have done wrong. it is not enough they are tried without their lawyers knowing what it is they are supposed to have done wrong. and now they are giving police even more powers to do as they wish. interesting that when people decide to take the law in their own hands as there is no other way, you will be bitching how barbaric they are. for barbarism look at your own country first.

in a way you are doing the jihadi recruitment yourself. it seems you learnt nothing from the past with ira. and you never will because you is just too thick to know what is right and what is wrong.

These powers serve no other purpose than to keep the public safe and the average person on the street has nothing to worry about.

It is invasive, but so is going through Airport Security, but generally people understand why and accept it. It's better to have such inconveniences than to have your own kids abducted by some over radical fuckwit. These terrorists exist, and they hate the way we live and the freedoms we have, and our religious beliefs or lack of.

The security agencies in many countries have foiled numerous attempts over the years, but it is hard to ascertain just how many lives they have saved!

Let's say there is another terrorist attack that kills 3000 people. For starters, it will result in another war with many more thousands of dead people and soldiers getting killed. I am pretty sure a few government powers that will work seamlessly in the background, is the lesser of these evils if it can result in avoiding the terrorist attack to begin with.

I am positive the Government is not interested in the GAY Porn sites you visit. However, if it is sites depicting male minors then you might have a bit of a problem so don't do that.

[Lordo]

it is not enough they lock people up and throw away the key without telling them what it is they have done wrong. it is not enough they are tried without their lawyers knowing what it is they are supposed to have done wrong. and now they are giving police even more powers to do as they wish. interesting that when people decide to take the law in their own hands as there is no other way, you will be bitching how barbaric they are. for barbarism look at your own country first.

in a way you are doing the jihadi recruitment yourself. it seems you learnt nothing from the past with ira. and you never will because you is just too thick to know what is right and what is wrong.

These powers serve no other purpose than to keep the public safe and the average person on the street has nothing to worry about.

It is invasive, but so is going through Airport Security, but generally people understand why and accept it. It's better to have such inconveniences than to have your own kids abducted by some over radical fuckwit. These terrorists exist, and they hate the way we live and the freedoms we have, and our religious beliefs or lack of.

The security agencies in many countries have foiled numerous attempts over the years, but it is hard to ascertain just how many lives they have saved!

it must be great to be as deluded as you to think that these people can do no wrong. explain that to the father who one minutes was holding his child's hand walking to a wedding party and next second left with just his hand. or the 14 year old boy who got picked up and taken to guantanamo with no charge being tortured. or the other 560 od people who spent 10 years there without charge and still not being released. the methods the west are using are barbaric and we will suffer the consequences till the order collapses just like the empires that have gone in the past. this will suffer the same fate for the same reason.

[Paphitis]

it is not enough they lock people up and throw away the key without telling them what it is they have done wrong. it is not enough they are tried without their lawyers knowing what it is they are supposed to have done wrong. and now they are giving police even more powers to do as they wish. interesting that when people decide to take the law in their own hands as there is no other way, you will be bitching how barbaric they are. for barbarism look at your own country first.

in a way you are doing the jihadi recruitment yourself. it seems you learnt nothing from the past with ira. and you never will because you is just too thick to know what is right and what is wrong.

These powers serve no other purpose than to keep the public safe and the average person on the street has nothing to worry about.

It is invasive, but so is going through Airport Security, but generally people understand why and accept it. It's better to have such inconveniences than to have your own kids abducted by some over radical fuckwit. These terrorists exist, and they hate the way we live and the freedoms we have, and our religious beliefs or lack of.

The security agencies in many countries have foiled numerous attempts over the years, but it is hard to ascertain just how many lives they have saved!

it must be great to be as deluded as you to think that these people can do no wrong. explain that to the father who one minutes was holding his child's hand walking to a wedding party and next second left with just his hand. or the 14 year old boy who got picked up and taken to guantanamo with charge being tortured. or the other 560 od people who spent 10 years there without charge and still not being released. the methods the west are using are barbaric and we will suffer the consequences till the order collapses just like the empires that have gone in the past. this will suffer the same fate for the same reason.

And the motive of doing wrong is what exactly? You must have serious tickets on yourself to even suggest the Government would be even vaguely interested in you.

All I know is that their intentions and their values are Noble despite the cynicism. I have 100% trust in them because they have the safety of my kids in their minds whenever they make policy decisions like this.

I don't have anything to worry about and I am happy they are taking steps to address some very serious security issues. Fact is, some Westerners are fighting with IS and they have received specialist training. Their minds are poisoned. If they return, they will kill again or strike at the heart of the society they have betrayed.

[repulsewarrior]

it is not enough they lock people up and throw away the key without telling them what it is they have done wrong. it is not enough they are tried without their lawyers knowing what it is they are supposed to have done wrong. and now they are giving police even more powers to do as they wish. interesting that when people decide to take the law in their own hands as there is no other way, you will be bitching how barbaric they are. for barbarism look at your own country first.

in a way you are doing the jihadi recruitment yourself. it seems you learnt nothing from the past with ira. and you never will because you is just too thick to know what is right and what is wrong.

...regardless Lordo, what are you suggesting; what is right and what is wrong?

[Lordo]

they are both equally wrong. on one side you cant arm one side and expect no reprisals from the other. you create the shit and then you must wallow in it. i dont mean you personally rw.

[repulsewarrior]

they are both equally wrong. on one side you cant arm one side and expect no reprisals from the other. you create the shit and then you must wallow in it. i dont mean you personally rw.

who feeds the poor people caught up in the hatred, i ask.
what are the other sides, since they are as a population, a whole, no matter how people are divided.
more death, is that the only way, everything dies.
and what of birth, a selfish act of those who should know better since it is death, this living.
the song of the jihadist is his own nightmare
live, and on tv; we suffer this fantasy all too real.

...indeed, the challenge should be Muslims helping Muslims. if Britain and the others who have stood up against this threat could help 'their' Muslims, it will go a long way. civilians helping civilians, if it was Butter the Government(s) spent their money on (at least as much as Guns), one would surely expect to expose those among the distressed who are against a Rule of Law where as Human Beings, we defend each other; and they would surely be more effective, as at war.

@Lordo, thank-you for your patronage, but i don't need it. if you want to demonstrate some respect to me, i suggest that you can show more respect for yourself, as a Cypriot. making all dirty like "Greeks", and "Turks" may be one side of the coin so to speak, but, there is a Cypriot soul, and there is a Cyprus, there is also this cause, sometimes i think you forget this.

[Paphitis]

they are both equally wrong. on one side you cant arm one side and expect no reprisals from the other. you create the shit and then you must wallow in it. i dont mean you personally rw.

who feeds the poor people caught up in the hatred, i ask.
what are the other sides, since they are as a population, a whole, no matter how people are divided.
more death, is that the only way, everything dies.
and what of birth, a selfish act of those who should know better since it is death, this living.
the song of the jihadist is his own nightmare
live, and on tv; we suffer this fantasy all too real.

...indeed, the challenge should be Muslims helping Muslims. if Britain and the others who have stood up against this threat could help 'their' Muslims, it will go a long way. civilians helping civilians, if it was Butter the Government(s) spent their money on (at least as much as Guns), one would surely expect to expose those among the distressed who are against a Rule of Law where as Human Beings, we defend each other; and they would surely be more effective, as at war.

@Lordo, thank-you for your patronage, but i don't need it. if you want to demonstrate some respect to me, i suggest that you can show more respect for yourself, as a Cypriot. making all dirty like "Greeks", and "Turks" may be one side of the coin so to speak, but, there is a Cypriot soul, and there is a Cyprus, there is also this cause, sometimes i think you forget this.

You are all way off the track.

The current crisis has no political motives. It's sectarian hatred pure and simple and there is no easy fix for this. These people are not interested in fighting America per se. They want to fight other Muslims, Christians and anyone else that does not share their poisoned ideology.

The proof is in the fact that these organisations manage to recruit young and impressionable boys from within the UK, Australia, US and Canada itself.