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[zan]

It does not surprise me the least that one moron supports another, GR and Zan!!
GR is well known for his schizophrenic outbursts, one such being his " declaring war on Turkey " a complete and utter idiot who has always supported the barbaric acts of suicide bombers, the jihadists and any other misfit, in other words echilisen to stouppoma che ivren tin mairissa.

This thread and my opening post reflects what the UK government and the security forces views are on returning jihadists representing a threat to the UK. These morons, as well as the other one who praises the contribution of islam to the world, dismiss this real threat and blame it on the west. Children, Zan says, these despicable fanatics who would gladly behead anyone uttering the slightest unsavoury remark on their so called prophet are in Zans opinion ....children.

They are a bloody menace to the world as a whole, they should have their passports revoked and even better they should perish in hell .

LONG LIVE THE WEST, LONG MAY OUR FREEDOM CONTINUE.

Change the record you confused prick

[Paphitis]

That child that was holding the banner, is there no law that prevents that type of thing in Australia. There is in the UK and they should be arrested for inciting violence not go half way round the world and bomb innocent people because they have the power to so. You are glad they give you a life off the back and lives of innocent people are you and " that's the way it is" then take everything " the way it is" and stop moaning. If you don't want to make a difference then you deserve nothing. THATS THE WAY IT IS.

There probably is but you are you going to arrest? The boy or the mother?

I think the authorities prefer to tackle this in a different way - through the education system and trust building rather than incite more hatred and taking the boys mother away for a prison term which can only further and inflame things.

Unfortunately, I do not believe these types of things are as a result of going half way around the world to wage war. The hatred does exist and it always will, albeit from a rather smallish minority within the Muslim religion. The hatred exists between Sunni and Shiite, and it always will, so you can imaging that it is even worse for Israelis, and the infidel West.

The Western way of life is under attack. The West does not attack Islam. I think it is important to note this. There are many Islamic Countries the West is even allies with so you can't really accuse the West with some kind of Armageddon clash of civilizations. You just need to look at Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain et al. The West will even mind its own business when the behead women or stone them for being rape victims. They can do what they want as long as they don't have any strange ideas about forcing their backward ways on us infidels.

I am with them like Boomerang. The West is protecting my families way of life and they generally try to improve our way of life and protect us from external attack. I would support them any time.

[zan]

That child that was holding the banner, is there no law that prevents that type of thing in Australia. There is in the UK and they should be arrested for inciting violence not go half way round the world and bomb innocent people because they have the power to so. You are glad they give you a life off the back and lives of innocent people are you and " that's the way it is" then take everything " the way it is" and stop moaning. If you don't want to make a difference then you deserve nothing. THATS THE WAY IT IS.

There probably is but you are you going to arrest? The boy or the mother?

I think the authorities prefer to tackle this in a different way - through the education system and trust building rather than incite more hatred and taking the boys mother away for a prison term which can only further and inflame things.

Unfortunately, I do not believe these types of things are as a result of going half way around the world to wage war. The hatred does exist and it always will, albeit from a rather smallish minority within the Muslim religion. The hatred exists between Sunni and Shiite, and it always will, so you can imaging that it is even worse for Israelis, and the infidel West.

I am not defending it Paphitis and yes arrest them. Take the social services, who can take the children, then arrest the mother. Of course the hatred exists but it is not as bad as you think but it does fuel the fire when people see their loved ones bombed. We as the all seeing west should not act in the same way as we condemn. we are either civilised or just another bunch of "Bararians". I beg you not to bring anger from the football thread to this issue. You are better than that.

[Paphitis]

That child that was holding the banner, is there no law that prevents that type of thing in Australia. There is in the UK and they should be arrested for inciting violence not go half way round the world and bomb innocent people because they have the power to so. You are glad they give you a life off the back and lives of innocent people are you and " that's the way it is" then take everything " the way it is" and stop moaning. If you don't want to make a difference then you deserve nothing. THATS THE WAY IT IS.

There probably is but you are you going to arrest? The boy or the mother?

I think the authorities prefer to tackle this in a different way - through the education system and trust building rather than incite more hatred and taking the boys mother away for a prison term which can only further and inflame things.

Unfortunately, I do not believe these types of things are as a result of going half way around the world to wage war. The hatred does exist and it always will, albeit from a rather smallish minority within the Muslim religion. The hatred exists between Sunni and Shiite, and it always will, so you can imaging that it is even worse for Israelis, and the infidel West.

I am not defending it Paphitis and yes arrest them. Take the social services, who can take the children, then arrest the mother. Of course the hatred exists but it is not as bad as you think but it does fuel the fire when people see their loved ones bombed. We as the all seeing west should not act in the same way as we condemn. we are either civilised or just another bunch of "Bararians". I beg you not to bring anger from the football thread to this issue. You are better than that.

At some point, the boy will attend Australian Schools, will make Australian Friends, and play sports and hopefully be more interested in girls like a normal teenager.

If his behaviour continues, then the Australia Government has a way of profiling suspect individuals through the secret service agencies which spy on citizens at home and abroad and it will come back and bight him on the arse. I don't think they understand the resources behind the Government and its commitment to control things like this before they get out of hand.

At best, he will never be able to get a job other than drive a taxi. At worse, the black suits will bash his door down and arrest him on terrorism charges like they did to a some Al Qaeda cells in Australia. Phone calls and emails are filtered so I wouldn't get too comfortable.

[miltiades]

TURKEY ALLOWS JIHADISTS, TO CROSS HER BORDERS INTO SYRIA.


“This report shows how Turkey allows jihadists from all over the world to use its land as a stonghold in order to fight the Syrian government. Turkey also arms the jihadists, provides them with medical treatment, and allows them to cross the Turkish-Syrian border freely without any restrictions.”

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/201 ... nto-syria/

[zan]

That child that was holding the banner, is there no law that prevents that type of thing in Australia. There is in the UK and they should be arrested for inciting violence not go half way round the world and bomb innocent people because they have the power to so. You are glad they give you a life off the back and lives of innocent people are you and " that's the way it is" then take everything " the way it is" and stop moaning. If you don't want to make a difference then you deserve nothing. THATS THE WAY IT IS.

There probably is but you are you going to arrest? The boy or the mother?

I think the authorities prefer to tackle this in a different way - through the education system and trust building rather than incite more hatred and taking the boys mother away for a prison term which can only further and inflame things.

Unfortunately, I do not believe these types of things are as a result of going half way around the world to wage war. The hatred does exist and it always will, albeit from a rather smallish minority within the Muslim religion. The hatred exists between Sunni and Shiite, and it always will, so you can imaging that it is even worse for Israelis, and the infidel West.

I am not defending it Paphitis and yes arrest them. Take the social services, who can take the children, then arrest the mother. Of course the hatred exists but it is not as bad as you think but it does fuel the fire when people see their loved ones bombed. We as the all seeing west should not act in the same way as we condemn. we are either civilised or just another bunch of "Bararians". I beg you not to bring anger from the football thread to this issue. You are better than that.

At some point, the boy will attend Australian Schools, will make Australian Friends, and play sports and hopefully be more interested in girls like a normal teenager.



If his behaviour continues, then the Australia Government has a way of profiling suspect individuals through the secret service agencies which spy on citizens at home at abroad and it will come back and bight him on the arse. I don't think they understand the resources behind the Government and its commitment to control things like this before they get out of hand.

There are idiots here that think i am defending people like this and jihadists but this thing should not be allowed to happen because it can fuel anger amongst normal australian people as well.It SHOULD be stamped out but with the rule of law.I can only see it as the government wanting it to effect the ordinary guy if they don't. The cost of a war will be far greater than a few social workers or some flack for arresting a mother. Those resources are your tax bucks.

[zan]

TURKEY ALLOWS JIHADISTS, TO CROSS HER BORDERS INTO SYRIA.


“This report shows how Turkey allows jihadists from all over the world to use its land as a stonghold in order to fight the Syrian government. Turkey also arms the jihadists, provides them with medical treatment, and allows them to cross the Turkish-Syrian border freely without any restrictions.”

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/201 ... nto-syria/

And did you see the government spokes person saying these people were interviewed by British authorities before letting them through customs? bet you ignored that fact. Both UK and Turkey under USA orders to let them through so they can use this shit to bomb more people. Iran said NO!!!!

[boomerang]

That child that was holding the banner, is there no law that prevents that type of thing in Australia. There is in the UK and they should be arrested for inciting violence not go half way round the world and bomb innocent people because they have the power to so. You are glad they give you a life off the back and lives of innocent people are you and " that's the way it is" then take everything " the way it is" and stop moaning. If you don't want to make a difference then you deserve nothing. THATS THE WAY IT IS.

ok...

1...we have laws...after a searching for her, she came forward with the excuse someone gave it to the child and she did not know what it meant...they let her go just so not to escalate the situation...or maybe she flashed out the golden era of islam on them and they thought oh yeah here a free pass for you, carry on and you are exempt...ffs...

2...what would you like me to do zan, become a keyboard jihadist just like you?...I explained to you there is a new chief in town and this is how they want to run the show...either with us or against us...looking at my way of life and "theirs" I chose what I have...they can keep theirs...I do not see your point of view when you say they give me a life on the back of others...

superpowers on any given day are brutal...the greeks were brutal, the romans were brutal, the british were brutal, the ottomans were brutal, the us is brutal...and the future superpower will be brutal...there is nothing you can do, it's history repeating itself...in the mean time my ancestors worked for a living, I work for a living, my parents worked, so everyone works for living...here is wild idea, why not send own YOUR kids on a jihad if you feel so strongly about it...why not huh?...this way you can deserve everything and who knows maybe yourself or your kids might get their 72 virgins...me I do not want 72 virgins...

you sitting behind a keyboard telling me not to moan and groan and do not deserve anything, well the simple truth of the matter is, zan, in their country of origin of these juhadis you cannot even be a Christian and needless to say no churches...here is a million dollar question for you...why don't they fuck off back to their own country if they think our way of life is insulting them?...or if they think the system is insulting them...

look man what I am asking is for everyone to accept the rules in the country they live in, be it my society or theirs, what I do not accept is bringing their shit in my country of residence...is that too much to ask?...especially when they look at my society with disdain...why come here in the first place...

usually migrants migrate for a better way of life...so the lady in in the picture she migrated for a better way of life but brought their way of bullshit with her...she is indoctrinating her kids at an early age and the problem will repeat itself...where is the tolerance...

questions
1...what was she doing there in the first place
2...why teach your kids intolerance.
the film was not played in Australia, it was rightfully condemned, but did not stop these morons going on a rampage smashing everything up and at the same time teaching young kids intolerance...why are these morons making it into a problem...

I do not mind peacefull demonstrations to drive the point, but this was not peaceful...can't you see their actions are actually bringing down the whole of the muslim community and making it dirty...BTW muslim leaders condemned it as well...

coming back to your broad statement, zan, this is super powers work, domination in one way or another...I am sure the otto boys did enough when they reached Cyprus...but I do not hear you condemning them...I do not hear you condemning turkey for forcing 150,000 off their ancestral lands...but here we are YOUR community has done so and you are getting a free ride on the back of 150,000 people...come on condemn as well...

[zan]

That child that was holding the banner, is there no law that prevents that type of thing in Australia. There is in the UK and they should be arrested for inciting violence not go half way round the world and bomb innocent people because they have the power to so. You are glad they give you a life off the back and lives of innocent people are you and " that's the way it is" then take everything " the way it is" and stop moaning. If you don't want to make a difference then you deserve nothing. THATS THE WAY IT IS.

ok...

1...we have laws...after a searching for her, she came forward with the excuse someone gave it to the child and she did not know what it meant...they let her go just so not to escalate the situation...or maybe she flashed out the golden era of islam on them and they thought oh yeah here a free pass for you, carry on and you are exempt...ffs...

2...what would you like me to do zan, become a keyboard jihadist just like you?...I explained to you there is a new chief in town and this is how they want to run the show...either with us or against us...looking at my way of life and "theirs" I chose what I have...they can keep theirs...I do not see your point of view when you say they give me a life on the back of others...

superpowers on any given day are brutal...the greeks were brutal, the romans were brutal, the british were brutal, the ottomans were brutal, the us is brutal...and the future superpower will be brutal...there is nothing you can do, it's history repeating itself...in the mean time my ancestors worked for a living, I work for a living, my parents worked, so everyone works for living...here is wild idea, why not send own YOUR kids on a jihad if you feel so strongly about it...why not huh?...this way you can deserve everything and who knows maybe yourself or your kids might get their 72 virgins...me I do not want 72 virgins...

you sitting behind a keyboard telling me not to moan and groan and do not deserve anything, well the simple truth of the matter is, zan, in their country of origin of these juhadis you cannot even be a Christian and needless to say no churches...here is a million dollar question for you...why don't they fuck off back to their own country if they think our way of life is insulting them?...or if they think the system is insulting them...

look man what I am asking is for everyone to accept the rules in the country they live in, be it my society or theirs, what I do not accept is bringing their shit in my country of residence...is that too much to ask?...especially when they look at my society with disdain...why come here in the first place...

usually migrants migrate for a better way of life...so the lady in in the picture she migrated for a better way of life but brought their way of bullshit with her...she is indoctrinating her kids at an early age and the problem will repeat itself...where is the tolerance...

questions
1...what was she doing there in the first place
2...why teach your kids intolerance.
the film was not played in Australia, it was rightfully condemned, but did not stop these morons going on a rampage smashing everything up and at the same time teaching young kids intolerance...why are these morons making it into a problem...

I do not mind peacefull demonstrations to drive the point, but this was not peaceful...can't you see their actions are actually bringing down the whole of the muslim community and making it dirty...BTW muslim leaders condemned it as well...

coming back to your broad statement, zan, this is super powers work, domination in one way or another...I am sure the otto boys did enough when they reached Cyprus...but I do not hear you condemning them...I do not hear you condemning turkey for forcing 150,000 off their ancestral lands...but here we are YOUR community has done so and you are getting a free ride on the back of 150,000 people...come on condemn as well...

Most of what you say I AGREE with but the rest is utter crap Boomers. If you want to prove you are a BIGGER BARBARIAN by your comments then thats up to you……I can't say more than condemn you along with them (the few) and ask why with all the examples you have given you have learned NOTHING!!! If they were mistakes in the past then why are they not today. If they are examples of brutality then why can't you say NO MORE. I fight this attitude with my family and with strangers and on the keyboard, as you say. It is you that sits there asking for blood from behind your keyboard. I also try to teach about the stupidity and archaic thinking of religion wherever I can not use it to kill. Then there are the power crazy (as in consumption) west that MUST feed the rich because business demands it be so. Ever greater profits with no limits instead of the 22nd century where everyone gets fed that i was taught would happen. If we have not evolved enough to be able to do that and fall into the trap of politicians using everything in their power to stay there, then i was born too early and I want nothing to do with helping it along like some Neanderthal. If its " with them or against them" then I choose the latter and they will not get my vote and all those votes I can help persuade. No bombs or threats of murder. Enough is enough.

[boomerang]

That child that was holding the banner, is there no law that prevents that type of thing in Australia. There is in the UK and they should be arrested for inciting violence not go half way round the world and bomb innocent people because they have the power to so. You are glad they give you a life off the back and lives of innocent people are you and " that's the way it is" then take everything " the way it is" and stop moaning. If you don't want to make a difference then you deserve nothing. THATS THE WAY IT IS.

There probably is but you are you going to arrest? The boy or the mother?

I think the authorities prefer to tackle this in a different way - through the education system and trust building rather than incite more hatred and taking the boys mother away for a prison term which can only further and inflame things.

Unfortunately, I do not believe these types of things are as a result of going half way around the world to wage war. The hatred does exist and it always will, albeit from a rather smallish minority within the Muslim religion. The hatred exists between Sunni and Shiite, and it always will, so you can imaging that it is even worse for Israelis, and the infidel West.

I am not defending it Paphitis and yes arrest them. Take the social services, who can take the children, then arrest the mother. Of course the hatred exists but it is not as bad as you think but it does fuel the fire when people see their loved ones bombed. We as the all seeing west should not act in the same way as we condemn. we are either civilised or just another bunch of "Bararians". I beg you not to bring anger from the football thread to this issue. You are better than that.

At some point, the boy will attend Australian Schools, will make Australian Friends, and play sports and hopefully be more interested in girls like a normal teenager.



If his behaviour continues, then the Australia Government has a way of profiling suspect individuals through the secret service agencies which spy on citizens at home at abroad and it will come back and bight him on the arse. I don't think they understand the resources behind the Government and its commitment to control things like this before they get out of hand.

There are idiots here that think i am defending people like this and jihadists but this thing should not be allowed to happen because it can fuel anger amongst normal australian people as well.It SHOULD be stamped out but with the rule of law.I can only see it as the government wanting it to effect the ordinary guy if they don't. The cost of a war will be far greater than a few social workers or some flack for arresting a mother. Those resources are your tax bucks.

oh I see...rule of law for them but not for Cyprus huh?...hmmm, some humanist you turned out to be zan...