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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:01 pm

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:I do not believe that.

You talk of energy energy Corridors,

Paphitis, you are the CEO of an energy company, and you want an energy corridor going through someone elses property. Lets say he is Syrian.

There is no other way for this energy corridor of yours to go. What happens if this person refuses?


In that particular case, you would go through Turkey.

Syria is too bloody hard and a bit of a basket case.


Maybe I should have been more clear, there is no other way. It must go through the Syrians.


Why?


Why not?


Erm because they don't need to! :roll:
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:02 pm

You can see where I am going with it, and you do not want to play.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:04 pm

Maximus wrote:You can see where I am going with it, and you do not want to play.


I know where you're going with it.

You need to understand one thing. European, EU and Global Industry relies on one thing - shit loads of Oil and Natural gas.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:06 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:You can see where I am going with it, and you do not want to play.


I know where you're going with it.

You need to understand one thing. European, EU and Global Industry relies on one thing - shit loads of Oil and Natural gas.


Right, so what is your problem with my understanding of how the world works?

Is it because it does not sit well with you and you have a problem accepting it?
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:08 pm

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:You can see where I am going with it, and you do not want to play.


I know where you're going with it.

You need to understand one thing. European, EU and Global Industry relies on one thing - shit loads of Oil and Natural gas.


Right, so what is your problem with my understanding of how the world works?

Is it because it does not sit well with you and you have a problem accepting it?


The fact that you're wrong because the US is NOT the instigator of all the world's problems but they do cop a lot of shit.

There are at least a 100 examples where they are actually assisting many countries and they do a lot of good.

Russia for example has invaded 2 countries and they play for keeps.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:16 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:You can see where I am going with it, and you do not want to play.


I know where you're going with it.

You need to understand one thing. European, EU and Global Industry relies on one thing - shit loads of Oil and Natural gas.


Right, so what is your problem with my understanding of how the world works?

Is it because it does not sit well with you and you have a problem accepting it?


The fact that you're wrong because the US is NOT the instigator of all the world's problems but they do cop a lot of shit.

There are at least a 100 examples where they are actually assisting many countries and they do a lot of good.

Russia for example has invaded 2 countries and they play for keeps.


OK, well prove with evidence that the US or the EU for that matter is not the instigator of what is going on in the Ukraine or the sh*t they take from the other excursions around the world is not their fault.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:21 pm

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:You can see where I am going with it, and you do not want to play.


I know where you're going with it.

You need to understand one thing. European, EU and Global Industry relies on one thing - shit loads of Oil and Natural gas.


Right, so what is your problem with my understanding of how the world works?

Is it because it does not sit well with you and you have a problem accepting it?


The fact that you're wrong because the US is NOT the instigator of all the world's problems but they do cop a lot of shit.

There are at least a 100 examples where they are actually assisting many countries and they do a lot of good.

Russia for example has invaded 2 countries and they play for keeps.


OK, well prove with evidence that the US or the EU for that matter is not the instigator of what is going on in the Ukraine or the sh*t they take from the other excursions around the world is not their fault.


The proof is all there. They are at the moment bystanders in the crisis watching and just providing diplomatic support because there is little else they can do other than impose sanctions.

It is Russia massing its troops on the border and declaring dangerous and threatening military drills.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:24 pm

This does not cut it Paphitis,

you say I am an intelligent man and you speak of facts, then point me to them.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:31 pm

Maximus wrote:This does not cut it Paphitis,

you say I am an intelligent man and you speak of facts, then point me to them.


Yes it does.

The Ukrainian People do not want Yanukovych and there are warrants for his arrest.

He has rejected an EU Association Agreement and opted for closer ties with Russia instead and this has resulted in mass protests and unrest against him by pro European Ukrainians, before he went into self imposed exile to the country that has undermined Ukraine and its people. Now Russia is arming ethnic Russians in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine forcing the State into action. Why?
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:This does not cut it Paphitis,

you say I am an intelligent man and you speak of facts, then point me to them.


Yes it does.

The Ukrainian People do not want Yanukovych and there are warrants for his arrest.

He has rejected an EU Association Agreement and opted for closer ties with Russia instead and this has resulted in mass protests and unrest against him by pro European Ukrainians, before he went into self imposed exile to the country that has undermined Ukraine and its people. Now Russia is arming ethnic Russians in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine forcing the State into action. Why?


Why...

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