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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:28 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:So tell me how things actually work in this world.

I am not on the Anti US bandwagon. Why dont you say the same for Robin Hood?

I do not disagree with retaining Ukraine's sovereign integrity.


Read the post above, again and it should be obvious to you. Especially the bit about the RoC being the strongest backer of Ukraine in the General Assembly.


My Dear friend, you are challenging my understanding of how things actually work in this world. Why dont you tell me how it actually works.


I already have Maximus.

It's a bloody School Yard out there, and there are 2 groups of kids. One group is the EU, NATO, US, Japan, South Korea, Australia et al.

The other issue is the transit points for Oil and Natural Gas into the European market.

You get the picture surely.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:33 pm

yeah I get the picture, there lots of bullying and childish and dangerous behavior going on.

So whats the problem? you would bribe for financial gain wouldn't you?
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:46 pm

Maximus wrote:yeah I get the picture, there lots of bullying and childish and dangerous behavior going on.

So whats the problem? you would bribe for financial gain wouldn't you?


On this occasion from Russia!

Look, RH is absolutely correct. The Big powers (EU and US) are interested in Free Trade, and that is the direction everything is going in this day and age. Money is not really the consideration but power and security is such particularly along the Energy corridors to Europe.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:47 pm

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Maximus wrote:yeah I get the picture, there lots of bullying and childish and dangerous behavior going on.

So whats the problem? you would bribe for financial gain wouldn't you?


On this occasion from Russia!


please explain.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:51 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:yeah I get the picture, there lots of bullying and childish and dangerous behavior going on.

So whats the problem? you would bribe for financial gain wouldn't you?


On this occasion from Russia!


please explain.


Russia is destabilizing Ukraine by suplying Ethnic Russian Militias with arms and supplies to terrorize the country forcing Kiev's hand to act militarily against those insurgents.

My guess is that Russia was planning an invasion, but it was thwarted because of US threats (which could have been a bluff).
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:54 pm

I do not believe that.

You talk of energy corridors,

Paphitis, you are the CEO of an energy company, and you want an energy corridor going through someone elses property. Lets say he is Syrian.

There is no other way for this energy corridor of yours to go. What happens if this person refuses?
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:57 pm

Maximus wrote:I do not believe that.

You talk of energy energy Corridors,

Paphitis, you are the CEO of an energy company, and you want an energy corridor going through someone elses property. Lets say he is Syrian.

There is no other way for this energy corridor of yours to go. What happens if this person refuses?


In that particular case, you would go through Turkey.

Syria is too bloody hard and a bit of a basket case.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:I do not believe that.

You talk of energy energy Corridors,

Paphitis, you are the CEO of an energy company, and you want an energy corridor going through someone elses property. Lets say he is Syrian.

There is no other way for this energy corridor of yours to go. What happens if this person refuses?


In that particular case, you would go through Turkey.

Syria is too bloody hard and a bit of a basket case.


Maybe I should have been more clear, there is no other way. It must go through the Syrians.
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:59 pm

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:I do not believe that.

You talk of energy energy Corridors,

Paphitis, you are the CEO of an energy company, and you want an energy corridor going through someone elses property. Lets say he is Syrian.

There is no other way for this energy corridor of yours to go. What happens if this person refuses?


In that particular case, you would go through Turkey.

Syria is too bloody hard and a bit of a basket case.


Maybe I should have been more clear, there is no other way. It must go through the Syrians.


Why?
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Re: Ukraine - The reality of war.

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:00 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:I do not believe that.

You talk of energy energy Corridors,

Paphitis, you are the CEO of an energy company, and you want an energy corridor going through someone elses property. Lets say he is Syrian.

There is no other way for this energy corridor of yours to go. What happens if this person refuses?


In that particular case, you would go through Turkey.

Syria is too bloody hard and a bit of a basket case.


Maybe I should have been more clear, there is no other way. It must go through the Syrians.


Why?


Why not?
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