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[Maximus]

I am saying that its the west and its puppets that are paying these mercenaries. Not Russia.

The west and its puppets are renowned for supporting rebels.

I don't think so. The Ukrainian Military and Police are paid for by the Ukrainian Authorities and they are NOT mercenaries. The Russian Militias are and they are acting illegally.

Read my comment again please. Just start again. from the beginning.

No it's ok Maximus, You explain it from the beginning and tell us all about it.

I prefer to stick to big picture, and for me it all boils down to Ukraine's, territorial Integrity as a Sovereign State.

I cant be bothered because you cant be bothered to read what I write before commenting..

[Paphitis]

I am saying that its the west and its puppets that are paying these mercenaries. Not Russia.

The west and its puppets are renowned for supporting rebels.

I don't think so. The Ukrainian Military and Police are paid for by the Ukrainian Authorities and they are NOT mercenaries. The Russian Militias are and they are acting illegally.

Read my comment again please. Just start again. from the beginning.

No it's ok Maximus, You explain it from the beginning and tell us all about it.

I prefer to stick to big picture, and for me it all boils down to Ukraine's, territorial Integrity as a Sovereign State.

I cant be bothered because you cant be bothered to read what I write before commenting..

No I did read it and thought it was ridiculous! Think about it.

[Maximus]

I have heard, from reliable sources that bums were incentivized and paid in excess of 300 euro and up to 1000 Dollars a day (by the west and its puppets) to stage violent demonstrations, cause problems, throw Molotov cocktails and fire live rounds at the Ukrainian police.

From what I can tell, there has been a deliberate attempt destabilize Ukraine and its not coming from Russia

Well it all starts with "I have heard" but no serious source from the West has actually accused Russia of this. They do however accuse Russia with acting very illegally within another country and without the mandate to do so, and annexing part of its territory which is extremely serious. Aside from the political turmoil, that is what it all boils down to.

I am saying that its the west and its puppets that are paying these mercenaries. Not Russia.

The west and its puppets are renowned for funding and supporting rebels.

I don't think so. The Ukrainian Military and Police are paid for by the Ukrainian Authorities and they are NOT mercenaries. The Russian Militias are and they are acting illegally.

Check yourself.

What do you want me to think about?

[Paphitis]

I have heard, from reliable sources that bums were incentivized and paid in excess of 300 euro and up to 1000 Dollars a day (by the west and its puppets) to stage violent demonstrations, cause problems, throw Molotov cocktails and fire live rounds at the Ukrainian police.

From what I can tell, there has been a deliberate attempt destabilize Ukraine and its not coming from Russia

Well it all starts with "I have heard" but no serious source from the West has actually accused Russia of this. They do however accuse Russia with acting very illegally within another country and without the mandate to do so, and annexing part of its territory which is extremely serious. Aside from the political turmoil, that is what it all boils down to.

I am saying that its the west and its puppets that are paying these mercenaries. Not Russia.

The west and its puppets are renowned for funding and supporting rebels.

I don't think so. The Ukrainian Military and Police are paid for by the Ukrainian Authorities and they are NOT mercenaries. The Russian Militias are and they are acting illegally.

Check yourself.

What do you want me to think about?

The craziness of the West paying its own lapdogs to destabilize the Ukrainian Authorities and help Russia in the meantime.

[Maximus]

I have heard, from reliable sources that bums were incentivized and paid in excess of 300 euro and up to 1000 Dollars a day (by the west and its puppets) to stage violent demonstrations, cause problems, throw Molotov cocktails and fire live rounds at the Ukrainian police.

From what I can tell, there has been a deliberate attempt destabilize Ukraine and its not coming from Russia

Well it all starts with "I have heard" but no serious source from the West has actually accused Russia of this. They do however accuse Russia with acting very illegally within another country and without the mandate to do so, and annexing part of its territory which is extremely serious. Aside from the political turmoil, that is what it all boils down to.

I am saying that its the west and its puppets that are paying these mercenaries. Not Russia.

The west and its puppets are renowned for funding and supporting rebels.

I don't think so. The Ukrainian Military and Police are paid for by the Ukrainian Authorities and they are NOT mercenaries. The Russian Militias are and they are acting illegally.

Check yourself.

What do you want me to think about?

The craziness of the West paying its own lapdogs to destabilize the Ukrainian Authorities and help Russia in the meantime.

[Maximus]

Another opinion from elsewhere on the net.

Washington doesn’t care what happens to Eastern or Western Europe, it is trying to hurt Russia, and Washington thinks that if it can stop Russia’s ability to sell gas to Europe, this will have an adverse economic effect on Russia. Of course it will also have an adverse economic effect on Europe, in fact, probably worse, because German industry is dependent on Russian energy supplies, and all Europe is dependent on Russia’s energy supplies not to freeze to death in the winter time. What you see here is the Washington empire, the exceptional and indispensible people who are superior to all other life forms, completely willing to sacrifice their allies in order to hurt Russia. That’s all it about. That is not about anything else.

- Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury

[Paphitis]

Another opinion from elsewhere on the net.

Washington doesn’t care what happens to Eastern or Western Europe, it is trying to hurt Russia, and Washington thinks that if it can stop Russia’s ability to sell gas to Europe, this will have an adverse economic effect on Russia. Of course it will also have an adverse economic effect on Europe, in fact, probably worse, because German industry is dependent on Russian energy supplies, and all Europe is dependent on Russia’s energy supplies not to freeze to death in the winter time. What you see here is the Washington empire, the exceptional and indispensible people who are superior to all other life forms, completely willing to sacrifice their allies in order to hurt Russia. That’s all it about. That is not about anything else.

- Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury

Sounds like an opinion to me.

It is a lot more feasible that the US is a lot more concerned with Energy Security, and Russian Gas adds that somewhat to the European Market. Without Energy Security or without Energy would be a catastrophe the Americans don't want to contemplate because it screws them up as well.

[Maximus]

Another opinion from elsewhere on the net.

Washington doesn’t care what happens to Eastern or Western Europe, it is trying to hurt Russia, and Washington thinks that if it can stop Russia’s ability to sell gas to Europe, this will have an adverse economic effect on Russia. Of course it will also have an adverse economic effect on Europe, in fact, probably worse, because German industry is dependent on Russian energy supplies, and all Europe is dependent on Russia’s energy supplies not to freeze to death in the winter time. What you see here is the Washington empire, the exceptional and indispensible people who are superior to all other life forms, completely willing to sacrifice their allies in order to hurt Russia. That’s all it about. That is not about anything else.

- Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury

Sounds like an opinion to me.

It is a lot more feasible that the US is a lot more concerned with Energy Security, and Russian Gas adds that somewhat to the European Market. Without Energy Security or without Energy would be a catastrophe the Americans don't want to contemplate because it screws them up as well.

The American empire is on the down and they are desperate to maintain power by the means they know how. Destruction, war, propaganda, IMF loans to indebt and own and ushering in the McDonalds and Starbucks with democracy while trying to control all of the worlds natural resources..

[Paphitis]

Another opinion from elsewhere on the net.

Washington doesn’t care what happens to Eastern or Western Europe, it is trying to hurt Russia, and Washington thinks that if it can stop Russia’s ability to sell gas to Europe, this will have an adverse economic effect on Russia. Of course it will also have an adverse economic effect on Europe, in fact, probably worse, because German industry is dependent on Russian energy supplies, and all Europe is dependent on Russia’s energy supplies not to freeze to death in the winter time. What you see here is the Washington empire, the exceptional and indispensible people who are superior to all other life forms, completely willing to sacrifice their allies in order to hurt Russia. That’s all it about. That is not about anything else.

- Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury

Sounds like an opinion to me.

It is a lot more feasible that the US is a lot more concerned with Energy Security, and Russian Gas adds that somewhat to the European Market. Without Energy Security or without Energy would be a catastrophe the Americans don't want to contemplate because it screws them up as well.

The American empire is on the down and they are desperate to maintain power by the means they know how, destruction, war, propaganda and bringing in the McDonalds and Starbucks with democracy.

There is no American Empire.

The "empire" they created was purely from influence. For example, the music and entertainment industry which you have made yourself a subject to for starters. Then it's trade and commerce.

One thing is for sure, they will not be on the decline any time soon and there is no power to keep hold of. at least not in the invade and conquer sense. They pretty much got it all covered for now. The big powers today prefer to explore new economic markets and everything is conquered from the board rooms of New York, Hong Kong, Tokyo and Berlin.

[Maximus]

Another opinion from elsewhere on the net.

Washington doesn’t care what happens to Eastern or Western Europe, it is trying to hurt Russia, and Washington thinks that if it can stop Russia’s ability to sell gas to Europe, this will have an adverse economic effect on Russia. Of course it will also have an adverse economic effect on Europe, in fact, probably worse, because German industry is dependent on Russian energy supplies, and all Europe is dependent on Russia’s energy supplies not to freeze to death in the winter time. What you see here is the Washington empire, the exceptional and indispensible people who are superior to all other life forms, completely willing to sacrifice their allies in order to hurt Russia. That’s all it about. That is not about anything else.

- Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury

Sounds like an opinion to me.

It is a lot more feasible that the US is a lot more concerned with Energy Security, and Russian Gas adds that somewhat to the European Market. Without Energy Security or without Energy would be a catastrophe the Americans don't want to contemplate because it screws them up as well.

The American empire is on the down and they are desperate to maintain power by the means they know how, destruction, war, propaganda and bringing in the McDonalds and Starbucks with democracy.

There is no American Empire.

The "empire" they created was purely from influence. For example, the music and entertainment industry which you have made yourself a subject to for starters. Then it's trade and commerce.

One thing is for sure, they will never be on the decline and there is no power to keep hold of. They pretty much got it all covered for now.

Influence through music and Hollywood, like, that's like propaganda because the Americans always make themselves out to be the good guys and they fight for liberty and freedom. When really, they don't.

Two thirds of Americans think their country is doomed.