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[boulio]

It seems in the last few months that various journalist and think tanks are writing and putting forward the great taboo that maybe the best solution for cyprus is truly a agreed partition.I know many in this forum will be up in arms but would a tc state within the EU be better than a dis function confederal model because let's face it that's what has been discussed the last forty years by all cypriot presidents from all ideological spectrums.i have three articles by stavros lygeros a well respected greek journalist,Yusuf Kanli that always believed the cyprus problem ended in 1974 but has come to the realization that maybe two cypriot states working within the EU would be better and the ICG that is turkey's biggest supporter .

All three articles place the tc state within the EU and recognized,however for this recognition the tc state would need to be drastically reduced,respect the EU acquis and property rights of gc that the land is in the tc state.the turkish military would be withdrawn however the tc state can have a defense pact with turkey which is allowed within the EU.Lygeros idea even goes further stating that the two cypriot states even separate would hold on vote in the EU,when the both agree or disagree they vote,bg when the two disagree about something they abstain.guarantees rights would be abolished most likely the sba as well.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regions/e ... ality.aspx

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/cyprio ... sCatID=425

http://strategyreports.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/κυπριακό-η-επιστροφή-του-σχεδίου-ανάν/

I know people are going to go ballistic but won't both sides really get what they want and don't say it aloud.the Turks get their recognition and state the gc get a lot of territory back the rest get their property rights and the turkish military threat is gone.the island would become a coop of two states with a wide range of cooperation and in the future if the bonds materialize they can formally join as a true federation with pressure and cohesion with third party rights ahead of cypriot either greek or turkish.

[Viewpoint]

Sounds good to me and Im sure the majority of TCs but the killer question is how much land the TRNC much be able to function.

[boulio]

Sounds good to me and Im sure the majority of TCs but the killer question is how much land the TRNC much be able to function.

I think the territory aspect is one big issue,however turkey's influence over the north is another.Turkey would need to see the north as a equal and not as a mother and child relationship.

[zan]

I have been saying this for the last ten years or more Boulio. I have gone further to say that Lefkosa/Nikosia should be a mixed business centre within the walled city.

[Get Real!]

Boulio’s links: Turks, a political propaganda company, and a Greek blog!

And while I’ve got your attention Boulio… why don’t you tell us where you come from.

[boulio]

Boulio’s links: Turks, a political propaganda company, and a Greek blog!

And while I’ve got your attention Boulio… why don’t you tell us where you come from.

I'm Hellene is that a problem?

[Get Real!]

Boulio’s links: Turks, a political propaganda company, and a Greek blog!

And while I’ve got your attention Boulio… why don’t you tell us where you come from.

I'm Hellene is that a problem?

I’m afraid it is because you’re only allowed to talk about the partitioning of Greece but not MY country… you understand that?

[boulio]

Your country is a greek cypriot state ,it was a republic with two communities participating for all but three years of its existence do you understand that?

[Get Real!]

Your country is a greek cypriot state ,it was a republic with two communities participating for all but three years of its existence do you understand that?

No I’m afraid not. Your country did not even exist when my country was the master of the Mediterranean and your people were squatting to piss in some cave south of Europe, so when you speak to me a Balkan like you should at the very least stand attention.

[Maximus]

when or how are they going to qualify if they are simultaneously violating the EU acquis and Copenhagen criteria in parallel to "wanting to join" ?

This is Davutoglu's Turkish Trojan horse in to the EU strategy.