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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby boulio » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:55 pm

Maximus wrote:
boulio wrote:the scam is BBF PERIOD.


I agree completely, so to is the idea of the "TRNC" becoming an EU member state or that the TC's claims to special rights and that they are a nation.

Separation, compensation and an end to the occupation of north Cyprus is the only answer. Its the only way the Turks can regain credibility, trust and provide the ingredients to build an honest relationship with its neighbors.



seperation of whom?
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby zan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:56 pm

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Really? Nothing about the 6000 Makarios supporters murdered and raped by their own even before Turkey set one foot on the island. All Turkey huh? This is not about revenge on the UN. It is about truth and reality that you seem to struggle with. Turkey took part of the island as a refuge for a condemned people. They have allowed the GC people to continue there existence and prosper. Can you say the same for the GCs and the rest allowing the TCs to even breath?


The teller of porkies is back in a big, big way...

Go on me son... add a few more noughts to your rubbish.



You ever listened to that recording of Makarios asking for help and saying the streets are littered with bodies moron. You had better start earning your money billy boy. You are digging your own hole. Middle finger I believe.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Maximus » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:57 pm

boulio wrote:
Maximus wrote:
boulio wrote:the scam is BBF PERIOD.


I agree completely, so to is the idea of the "TRNC" becoming an EU member state or that the TC's claims to special rights and that they are a nation.

Separation, compensation and an end to the occupation of north Cyprus is the only answer. Its the only way the Turks can regain credibility, trust and provide the ingredients to build an honest relationship with its neighbors.



seperation of whom?


All those undemocratic fascists in the north that claim that they are "equal partners" with the GC's in the RoC.

There needs to be a separation.

lets not forget, that the TC community was sown in to the Cypriot government out of malice and to cause problems when they should have been repatriated before Cyprus got its independence. They should have just been citizens with the same rights as everyone else, at the very least..
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby zan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:04 pm

zan wrote:Kiks wrote:

So you don't think it was the master plan by Turkey and Denktash to make the TCs suffer by their own people to facilitate a partition, a dream conceived way before 1974, way before 1963, way before 1960 and way before 1959 Zurich agreements? The Zurich agreements were specially designed to facilitate the partition of Cyprus by Turkey, Greece and the UK. Sure the TCs suffered and no one can deny that, but just blaming Makarios is doing disservice to those TCs who had suffered and killed.

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Now we are getting somewhere! Yes to all!!!! But not the whole story from you as usual. The plans were against ENOSIS that has been going on for much longer than any of those you claim. Makarios was my time and had he not seen the opportunity to play Russia off against the rest and achieve his ENOSIS in spite of all that was happening then Turkey would not have had the chance to use the situation to their political needs. It is a big world out there and all of them have used whatever they need because less than a million people on a little island did not matter. It is just that the TCs have been left holding the shittiest end of the stick and still being manipulated and our GC counterparts are still keen to use that. I will be totally honest here and say that I was holding out hope for this Chris person who calls himself the president of Cyprus. I likened him to Bannaniot for some reason and really hoping he was the one that would show understanding. Whether he is being bullied or he is just another crook looking out for himself, it has been a great disappointment. A man that voted for the AP is now falling into the rut of others.

If by Turkey and Denktas making TCs suffer to force them into something they didn't want....... What did the GCs do to counter that? Stop babies milk and simple medicines? Call us back into government to stop Turkey doing anything? No! They used the situation and still are while TCs still suffer. Waiting for a time that suits them to take the whole island politically if not by war. Shame you are buying into this scam. But I believe you have your own agenda anyway. Another antagonist to go with the others.


Anyway.... Me and the Mrs are off to watch a film on the history of Malta. Somehow they seem to have navigated their way through a similar history. I have met people who despise and those who accept but none are under siege and isolated from the world.



Correction (my wife was pestering me to "put the bloody iPad down and let's go" so I misinformed you) The Zurick agreement was designed to stop partition. The best compromise at the time. Still in order today.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby zan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:06 pm

Maximus wrote:
boulio wrote:
Maximus wrote:
boulio wrote:the scam is BBF PERIOD.


I agree completely, so to is the idea of the "TRNC" becoming an EU member state or that the TC's claims to special rights and that they are a nation.

Separation, compensation and an end to the occupation of north Cyprus is the only answer. Its the only way the Turks can regain credibility, trust and provide the ingredients to build an honest relationship with its neighbors.



seperation of whom?


All those undemocratic fascists in the north that claim that they are "equal partners" with the GC's in the RoC.

There needs to be a separation.

lets not forget, that the TC community was sown in to the Cypriot government out of malice and to cause problems when they should have been repatriated before Cyprus got its independence. They should have just been citizens with the same rights as everyone else, at the very least..



You better book two rooms DT :lol:
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:38 pm

...wow, all I can say is that Biden's visit was welcome. I can imagine all this is for his benefit, why else would so many "Turks" appear at one time on this Forum to spout total fabrications, it seems to me for one thing only...
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby zan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:55 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...wow, all I can say is that Biden's visit was welcome. I can imagine all this is for his benefit, why else would so many "Turks" appear at one time on this Forum to spout total fabrications, it seems to me for one thing only...



I'm beginning to think there are two RWs posting :shock:
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:03 pm

zan wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...wow, all I can say is that Biden's visit was welcome. I can imagine all this is for his benefit, why else would so many "Turks" appear at one time on this Forum to spout total fabrications, it seems to me for one thing only...

I'm beginning to think there are two RWs posting :shock:


There are… when his does Meth! :lol:
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby zan » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...wow, all I can say is that Biden's visit was welcome. I can imagine all this is for his benefit, why else would so many "Turks" appear at one time on this Forum to spout total fabrications, it seems to me for one thing only...

I'm beginning to think there are two RWs posting :shock:


There are… when his does Meth! :lol:



I thought you were joking :shock: :o
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:43 pm

zan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
zan wrote:

Really? Nothing about the 6000 Makarios supporters murdered and raped by their own even before Turkey set one foot on the island. All Turkey huh? This is not about revenge on the UN. It is about truth and reality that you seem to struggle with. Turkey took part of the island as a refuge for a condemned people. They have allowed the GC people to continue there existence and prosper. Can you say the same for the GCs and the rest allowing the TCs to even breath?


The teller of porkies is back in a big, big way...

Go on me son... add a few more noughts to your rubbish.



You ever listened to that recording of Makarios asking for help and saying the streets are littered with bodies moron. You had better start earning your money billy boy. You are digging your own hole. Middle finger I believe.


Oh... so you're taking your middle finger out of your bum, are you pratt... ???

6,000 murdered and now streets littered with bodies... you really are a lying little toe-rag, Zonny Jim.

Wonder where the Forum's Porky Teller got that from..???... unbungoed.com...??? :roll:
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