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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:27 pm

boulio wrote:
Common denominator in the articles is vast territory returned for recognition.YOu need the ROC signature for this to go thru.


Those who wrote the articles are decedents of those in Greece who exchanged populations and properties with Ataturk on 1:5 ratio AGAINST them and passed it on to you as a victory. Sorry we are not IQ<0.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:37 pm

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Kikapu wrote:Boulio,

I'm afraid I need to agree with GR, DT and Pyro comments on this tread. The proposals presented by Mr Bloody (Kanli) a neo partitionist, ICG (on Turkey’s payroll) and who ever the foreign Greek person was with the article, since it was all-Greek to me, all they are doing is regurgitating the Annan Plan of 2004. BBF is on the table, so what's wrong with True Federation, True Democracy Human Rights, EU Principles and International laws for a settlement, much what I had proposed before. It works just fine in the USA for over 200 years now consisting of 50 states. It will be a walk in the park with just 2 states in Cyprus. Why isn't Turkey allowing the TCs to agree on a BBF based on the above principles? The north still be in the EU, so why not. The 2 state solution proposal you are talking about in the EU is a 100% partition, so how does that differ from the AP had it been voted in? There's no difference.

Turkey will use the north state as a proxy in the EU. I mean, you don't think the TCs have a voice in what goes on in the north do you when the Illegal Alien settlers outnumber them? With your proposal, all Turkey needs to do is to convert all it's population in becoming EU citizens thanks to the north's EU state status. Then these Turks as EU citizens will flood the south EU state over time and settle there. Before you know it, it's “check-mate” for the GCs and the TCs in Cyprus as we know it and Turkey becomes the masters on the island again under a different name than the Ottomans. However, with a BBF with the above principles where the Federal government looks over the Federal states of the north and south, Turkey cannot do a thing in Cyprus and kept out of the EU matters. These are just one or two points. There are many more. I'm surprise at you for not thinking this out for yourself.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Show me one thread (not tread) that you are not in agreement with Greeks on this forum and I promise you I will hand you over the keys to a nice convertible to drive to Cyprus in style with. :lol: This is a legally binding statement from me. One post that is against the Greeks and the car is yours. :D


You already lost my friend Boulio is GREEK-GREEK, FROM GREKKLAND THE HECKLAND. THE SHESHLAND. :lol:
The keys please :wink:
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:33 pm

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MR-from-NG wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Boulio,

I'm afraid I need to agree with GR, DT and Pyro comments on this tread. The proposals presented by Mr Bloody (Kanli) a neo partitionist, ICG (on Turkey’s payroll) and who ever the foreign Greek person was with the article, since it was all-Greek to me, all they are doing is regurgitating the Annan Plan of 2004. BBF is on the table, so what's wrong with True Federation, True Democracy Human Rights, EU Principles and International laws for a settlement, much what I had proposed before. It works just fine in the USA for over 200 years now consisting of 50 states. It will be a walk in the park with just 2 states in Cyprus. Why isn't Turkey allowing the TCs to agree on a BBF based on the above principles? The north still be in the EU, so why not. The 2 state solution proposal you are talking about in the EU is a 100% partition, so how does that differ from the AP had it been voted in? There's no difference.

Turkey will use the north state as a proxy in the EU. I mean, you don't think the TCs have a voice in what goes on in the north do you when the Illegal Alien settlers outnumber them? With your proposal, all Turkey needs to do is to convert all it's population in becoming EU citizens thanks to the north's EU state status. Then these Turks as EU citizens will flood the south EU state over time and settle there. Before you know it, it's “check-mate” for the GCs and the TCs in Cyprus as we know it and Turkey becomes the masters on the island again under a different name than the Ottomans. However, with a BBF with the above principles where the Federal government looks over the Federal states of the north and south, Turkey cannot do a thing in Cyprus and kept out of the EU matters. These are just one or two points. There are many more. I'm surprise at you for not thinking this out for yourself.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Show me one thread (not tread) that you are not in agreement with Greeks on this forum and I promise you I will hand you over the keys to a nice convertible to drive to Cyprus in style with. :lol: This is a legally binding statement from me. One post that is against the Greeks and the car is yours. :D


You already lost my friend Boulio is GREEK-GREEK, FROM GREKKLAND THE HECKLAND. THE SHESHLAND. :lol:
The keys please :wink:


:D Come on Pyrpolizer, you are one of the few good guys on this forum and you have my respect. You know very well that Kiks posts exchanged with boulio does not meet the criteria of my challenge.

Let me make this a little clearer. If Kiks can show me one post that says a single good thing about the TC's or if he can show me a single post that would be anti Greek/GC then he wins the challenge.

Look, I wouldn't even extend this challenge to B25 or the village idiot AKA Sotos. There is a remote chance they may have sometime in the past, perhaps a bit drunk or high on dope, they may have said something good about the TC's or something bad about the GC's. With Kiks I know for certain there is no chance of me losing my car.

You see, George W had Tony Blair as his lap-dog, you have Kikapu. The sad thing is he fights your corner with such commitment but he doesn't get the appreciation he deserves. He is doing this all for you guys and all he wants is a bit of recognition for his efforts and you are not giving it to him. Give the man credit though, he has very thick skin. :D
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:25 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Boulio,

I'm afraid I need to agree with GR, DT and Pyro comments on this tread. The proposals presented by Mr Bloody (Kanli) a neo partitionist, ICG (on Turkey’s payroll) and who ever the foreign Greek person was with the article, since it was all-Greek to me, all they are doing is regurgitating the Annan Plan of 2004. BBF is on the table, so what's wrong with True Federation, True Democracy Human Rights, EU Principles and International laws for a settlement, much what I had proposed before. It works just fine in the USA for over 200 years now consisting of 50 states. It will be a walk in the park with just 2 states in Cyprus. Why isn't Turkey allowing the TCs to agree on a BBF based on the above principles? The north still be in the EU, so why not. The 2 state solution proposal you are talking about in the EU is a 100% partition, so how does that differ from the AP had it been voted in? There's no difference.

Turkey will use the north state as a proxy in the EU. I mean, you don't think the TCs have a voice in what goes on in the north do you when the Illegal Alien settlers outnumber them? With your proposal, all Turkey needs to do is to convert all it's population in becoming EU citizens thanks to the north's EU state status. Then these Turks as EU citizens will flood the south EU state over time and settle there. Before you know it, it's “check-mate” for the GCs and the TCs in Cyprus as we know it and Turkey becomes the masters on the island again under a different name than the Ottomans. However, with a BBF with the above principles where the Federal government looks over the Federal states of the north and south, Turkey cannot do a thing in Cyprus and kept out of the EU matters. These are just one or two points. There are many more. I'm surprise at you for not thinking this out for yourself.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Show me one thread (not tread) that you are not in agreement with Greeks on this forum and I promise you I will hand you over the keys to a nice convertible to drive to Cyprus in style with. :lol: This is a legally binding statement from me. One post that is against the Greeks and the car is yours. :D


Since you have offered the bet and the deal, I take it, MR-from-NG. Show me which Greeks I have agreed with on this forum. :D

Red colour will do just fine, thanks! :wink:
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:03 pm

Kikapu wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Boulio,

I'm afraid I need to agree with GR, DT and Pyro comments on this tread. The proposals presented by Mr Bloody (Kanli) a neo partitionist, ICG (on Turkey’s payroll) and who ever the foreign Greek person was with the article, since it was all-Greek to me, all they are doing is regurgitating the Annan Plan of 2004. BBF is on the table, so what's wrong with True Federation, True Democracy Human Rights, EU Principles and International laws for a settlement, much what I had proposed before. It works just fine in the USA for over 200 years now consisting of 50 states. It will be a walk in the park with just 2 states in Cyprus. Why isn't Turkey allowing the TCs to agree on a BBF based on the above principles? The north still be in the EU, so why not. The 2 state solution proposal you are talking about in the EU is a 100% partition, so how does that differ from the AP had it been voted in? There's no difference.

Turkey will use the north state as a proxy in the EU. I mean, you don't think the TCs have a voice in what goes on in the north do you when the Illegal Alien settlers outnumber them? With your proposal, all Turkey needs to do is to convert all it's population in becoming EU citizens thanks to the north's EU state status. Then these Turks as EU citizens will flood the south EU state over time and settle there. Before you know it, it's “check-mate” for the GCs and the TCs in Cyprus as we know it and Turkey becomes the masters on the island again under a different name than the Ottomans. However, with a BBF with the above principles where the Federal government looks over the Federal states of the north and south, Turkey cannot do a thing in Cyprus and kept out of the EU matters. These are just one or two points. There are many more. I'm surprise at you for not thinking this out for yourself.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Show me one thread (not tread) that you are not in agreement with Greeks on this forum and I promise you I will hand you over the keys to a nice convertible to drive to Cyprus in style with. :lol: This is a legally binding statement from me. One post that is against the Greeks and the car is yours. :D


Since you have offered the bet and the deal, I take it, MR-from-NG. Show me which Greeks I have agreed with on this forum. :D

Red colour will do just fine, thanks! :wink:


:D Left or rhd? Come on Kiks, don't move the goal post now, you want me to go through pages and pages of your posts? My challenge is very clear, you show me one of your posts that contains a kind word for your own community, (in case you're not aware your community is the Turkish speaking Cypriots) then you win the challenge.

If thats not possible then try looking for a post that contains one single condemnation of the Greek speaking Cypriots for all the suffering caused to your community (Turkish speaking Cypriots) because of their stupid desire to gift the island to Greece and again that wins you the challenge. :D Best of luck mate.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:10 pm

MRfromNG he will now stall because he has no posts to provide, your car is very safe< i have been pointing out the same thing for years now.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:MRfromNG he will now stall because he has no posts to provide, your car is very safe< i have been pointing out the same thing for years now.


Very true VP. You know Kiks better than anyone else. You have been fighting your corner with a passion for many years and for that I commend you. Keep up the good work and don't yield. YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby B25 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:01 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:MRfromNG he will now stall because he has no posts to provide, your car is very safe< i have been pointing out the same thing for years now.


Very true VP. You know Kiks better than anyone else. You have been fighting your corner with a passion for many years and for that I commend you. Keep up the good work and don't yield. YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!

Turkey sure does need him, perhaps he should give the gezi demonstrators a kicking too! :lol: :lol: :x
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:MRfromNG he will now stall because he has no posts to provide, your car is very safe< i have been pointing out the same thing for years now.


...let me think now, oh yes, you wanted to hang vandals by their thumbs, vp, for scratching a GC car at the TC (as you say), airport; I remember.

...not even Solomou, when he was shot in the disorder that demonstrates itself as a Turkish Army, and an Interior Minister, not a word or a question, it did not matter that a UN observer was shot as well, children and women were hurt; I remember that too.

MRfromNG, I would not mistake mindless denial, as Patriotism.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby zan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:21 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:MRfromNG he will now stall because he has no posts to provide, your car is very safe< i have been pointing out the same thing for years now.


...let me think now, oh yes, you wanted to hang vandals by their thumbs, vp, for scratching a GC car at the TC (as you say), airport; I remember.

...not even Solomou, when he was shot in the disorder that demonstrates itself as a Turkish Army, and an Interior Minister, not a word or a question, it did not matter that a UN observer was shot as well, children and women were hurt; I remember that too.

MRfromNG, I would not mistake mindless denial, as Patriotism.



I have never condoned violence but again you choose to ignore reality. The UN stood by and watched as TCs suffered. I think those incidents were political and not the disorder you claim. A clear signal to the UN that was supposed to be patrolling and controlling the area. Wished it hadn't happened but it was the disorder of politics and not the stamp you are giving it. :roll:
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