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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby boulio » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:
boulio wrote:Your country is a greek cypriot state ,it was a republic with two communities participating for all but three years of its existence do you understand that?

No I’m afraid not. Your country did not even exist when my country was the master of the Mediterranean and your people were squatting to piss in some cave south of Europe, so when you speak to me a Balkan like you should at the very least stand attention.


Delusion at its finest.you have been a Greek state for 51 out of 54 years of your existence that is reality.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby boulio » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:11 pm

Maximus wrote:when or how are they going to qualify if they are simultaneously violating the EU acquis and Copenhagen criteria in parallel to "wanting to join" ? :?

This is Davutoglu's Turkish Trojan horse in to the EU strategy.



Not necessarily the tc and gc after the tc accede to the EU according to lygeros will vote if both countries agree to something.were they don't agree they abstain.Turkey will have little influence in tc affairs within the eu
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Maximus » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:15 pm

boulio wrote:
Maximus wrote:when or how are they going to qualify if they are simultaneously violating the EU acquis and Copenhagen criteria in parallel to "wanting to join" ? :?

This is Davutoglu's Turkish Trojan horse in to the EU strategy.



Not necessarily the tc and gc after the tc accede to the EU according to lygeros will vote if both countries agree to something.were they don't agree they abstain.Turkey will have little influence in tc affairs within the eu


I do not get it but I do not think this maneuver is possible.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Maximus » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:19 pm

Its a non sequitur, it does not follow for the "TRNC" to become an EU member state.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby boulio » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:33 pm

Maximus wrote:Its a non sequitur, it does not follow for the "TRNC" to become an EU member state.



A non sequitur is thinking a bbf will work or the tc will be a minority in a unitary Cyprus,also with dynamics changing in the region they will remain forever unrecognized.even if they do remain unrecognized for another 50 years all refugees will be dead and the Turkish military will remsin
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby DT. » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:41 pm

Every now and then some smart Alec usually a foreigner comes to the realization that Cyprus might be better off split. I agree, figure out which land belongs to TC's and split it off. You can't touch Morphou, because that's where I come from, oh and you've got my agreement if you don't touch Kyrenia which is where my grandparents come from...and I'll definitely vote for it if you leave Famagusta out of this split because my wife and her family are from there so that's a no-go. Would also appreciate you stay out of Rizokarpasso because that's where my dad comes from.

Other than that I'm cool with this idea :D Oh and if I'm presenting too many obstacles in someone's opinion of this master plan then I'd gladly listen to their ideas of compensating me with their dad's land in Athens, wives home in Istanbul or even their grandparents cottage in London. I'm all ears!

Exactly how many thousands of years does Cyprus need to be whole in order for some idiots to feel the least bit ashamed at thinking they're the chosen generation that walked this land in those thousands of years and it's ok for them to split it in two parts. :roll:
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:48 pm

You plonker Kyrenia is not going anywhere, you will still have roots going back there but your problem lies in the fact that it will be under TC control, I understand you do not want to reside under TC administration, then why on earth do you want to force us to live under GC administration?
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby boulio » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:59 pm

DT. wrote:Every now and then some smart Alec usually a foreigner comes to the realization that Cyprus might be better off split. I agree, figure out which land belongs to TC's and split it off. You can't touch Morphou, because that's where I come from, oh and you've got my agreement if you don't touch Kyrenia which is where my grandparents come from...and I'll definitely vote for it if you leave Famagusta out of this split because my wife and her family are from there so that's a no-go. Would also appreciate you stay out of Rizokarpasso because that's where my dad comes from.

Other than that I'm cool with this idea :D Oh and if I'm presenting too many obstacles in someone's opinion of this master plan then I'd gladly listen to their ideas of compensating me with their dad's land in Athens, wives home in Istanbul or even their grandparents cottage in London. I'm all ears!

Exactly how many thousands of years does Cyprus need to be whole in order for some idiots to feel the least bit ashamed at thinking they're the chosen generation that walked this land in those thousands of years and it's ok for them to split it in two parts. :roll:


Understandable your argument but in the context of a BBF this is better.face it the last 5 roc presidents have been negotiating a disguised partition which will make the new country a protectorate of turkey.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby boulio » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:01 pm

Viewpoint wrote:You plonker Kyrenia is not going anywhere, you will still have roots going back there but your problem lies in the fact that it will be under TC control, I understand you do not want to reside under TC administration, then why on earth do you want to force us to live under GC administration?


There will be a massive bill to pay though vp for property and if a greek cypriot wants his land he gets to keep it within the EU solution.
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Re: Reality that nobody wants to talk about till now.

Postby Maximus » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:21 pm

boulio wrote:
Maximus wrote:Its a non sequitur, it does not follow for the "TRNC" to become an EU member state.



A non sequitur is thinking a bbf will work or the tc will be a minority in a unitary Cyprus,also with dynamics changing in the region they will remain forever unrecognized.even if they do remain unrecognized for another 50 years all refugees will be dead and the Turkish military will remsin


I agree with separation and insist on the blue line.
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