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[Viewpoint]

I picked up rubbish from the streets last week to make north Cyprus a cleaner place, now thats power dont you think. What have you done?

I never heard of a place called "North Cyprus".

You must have picked up the rubbish in your new "country of trnc". Well done!

My question still stands.

You still dont get it do you, I have more say in Cyprus picking up rubbish than you will ever have spouting the crap you do on this forum. You are no longer part of this island nor does anything you do or say have any impact whatsoever, you dont matter, you will die a foreigner in a foreign country end of story...its your choice so need to complain about it.

[Kikapu]

I picked up rubbish from the streets last week to make north Cyprus a cleaner place, now thats power dont you think. What have you done?

I never heard of a place called "North Cyprus".

You must have picked up the rubbish in your new "country of trnc". Well done!

My question still stands.

You still dont get it do you, I have more say in Cyprus picking up rubbish than you will ever have spouting the crap you do on this forum. You are no longer part of this island nor does anything you do or say have any impact whatsoever, you dont matter, you will die a foreigner in a foreign country end of story...its your choice so need to complain about it.

Just continue picking up the rubbish in your new "country of trnc" and leave Cyprus issues to Cypriots like myself, Zan, MR-from-NG and other TCs & GCs.

[zan]

Viewpoint, your opinions sometimes make me think I am reading posts by a mainland Greek Golden Dawn fanatic.

Yes we left Cyprus in 1963, and lived in London, next to a TC family from Lefka. The intention was to have a good education and return. The town that I knew best, the community I was tied into, was Famagusta. Chance would have it that Famagusta was lost and the community dispersed all over the world just when I graduated. It was next to impossible for a new graduate to find a job in Cyprus in the late 70s. I ended up in Athens, my brother in England, my parents in Cyprus, and other relatives flung all over, including Australia and the USA.

All of us are excluded, according to you, because we were forced to leave or stay away by the idiotic Turkish invasion. That is the kind of drastic solution you expect from a Golden Dawnist.

@ Nikitas

There was no Turkish " invasion" in 1963. You left for the same reasons as me. Unrest because of EOKA activity. Because of national guard mobilising so please have the decency to be honest.

@VP

I am sorry but this time I have to disagree with you. Our lives were disrupted and we moved for many reasons. I will never blame my parents for making that decision. Not being educated or monied, I can only guess what they must have been going through to leave the only place they knew with £10 in their pockets and six children, one married. Jump forward to now. I have three children and a grandchild. I would love to come back home but the reality is I can't. Not for money but I do not want to have my life disrupted AGAIN and miss out on generations of family like I did with those we left behind in Cyprus. I dream of doing so and having my family come stay for months at a time but the reality is they won't be able to because of cost and the entirely reliant lives they will live in the UK. My parents have a short time left on this earth and we, as their children have a responsibility to look after them. The heat in Cyprus will shorten that considerably. If I win the £100,000,000 lottery, I will pack the lot up and bring them over in an instant providing 24 hour care for my parents in air conditioned splendour but.......It is a mistake to think that we are no longer a part of Cyprus. We have land, although inaccessible, and family that rely on us. Not financially but support in our cause and to show we have not just pulled up the drawbridge and forgotten them. I want my vote to count in the TRNC also because of that reason and because it makes sense that it will strengthen TCs internationally. The "RoC" doesn't want us to do that and neither do the big boys.


This does not cover Kiks though. As far as I have read he is all over the place in a boat. Maybe I am wrong and have lost touch with his situation


I had to edit because I have just seen Kiks upgrading me to his version of a Cypriot. Any old port in a storm huh kiks

[Viewpoint]

I understand what you are saying zan I came from the same place as you, but your reason for not returning basically is money, if you have lots of it you would move the whole family here tomorrow, this is quite normal. I am not challenging your love for Cyprus north or south Im trying to state facts, you live and work in the UK, your life is there, why should I dictate to you about what you should do there, I cant its not my place, its your chosen country your opinions and effective say is far more important than my opinions.

I am asking for the same, people who dont even live even Cyprus can of course express their opinions but it has no significance in the grand scheme of things, its ineffective and these people will not even be buried in Cyprus, like Kikapoo he has no connections left with Cyprus he a diluted individual with no offspring that can relate to Cyprus, why should you have say in my life in Cyprus when you dont even live here?

[zan]

I understand what you are saying zan I came from the same place as you, but your reason for not returning basically is money, if you have lots of it you would move the whole family here tomorrow, this is quite normal. I am not challenging your love for Cyprus north or south Im trying to state facts, you live and work in the UK, your life is there, why should I dictate to you about what you should do there, I cant its not my place, its your chosen country your opinions and effective say is far more important than my opinions.

I am asking for the same, people who dont even live even Cyprus can of course express their opinions but it has no significance in the grand scheme of things, its ineffective and these people will not even be buried in Cyprus, like Kikapoo he has no connections left with Cyprus he a diluted individual with no offspring that can relate to Cyprus, why should you have say in my life in Cyprus when you dont even live here?

Ultimately yes, it is about money but only to have my loved ones with me. I also feel that I would be cutting off my nose to spite my face because it would take away any power I had to effect the end result. Obviously we are at odds with that. You are right in my vote having effect on your daily life but it doesn't have to be like that. Voting on a solution only maybe. You cannot deny that a solution will have direct effect on me and my land. What right have the government got to decide my lands fate whether I am there or not given the history and it's effects? We as TCs have to think outside the box and realise our strengths. This is not easy with the ruling families feuding. This is relevant on both sides BTW.

[Kikapu]

I understand what you are saying zan I came from the same place as you, but your reason for not returning basically is money, if you have lots of it you would move the whole family here tomorrow, this is quite normal. I am not challenging your love for Cyprus north or south Im trying to state facts, you live and work in the UK, your life is there, why should I dictate to you about what you should do there, I cant its not my place, its your chosen country your opinions and effective say is far more important than my opinions.

I am asking for the same, people who dont even live even Cyprus can of course express their opinions but it has no significance in the grand scheme of things, its ineffective and these people will not even be buried in Cyprus, like Kikapoo he has no connections left with Cyprus he a diluted individual with no offspring that can relate to Cyprus, why should you have say in my life in Cyprus when you dont even live here?

Ultimately yes, it is about money but only to have my loved ones with me. I also feel that I would be cutting off my nose to spite my face because it would take away any power I had to effect the end result. Obviously we are at odds with that. You are right in my vote having effect on your daily life but it doesn't have to be like that. Voting on a solution only maybe. You cannot deny that a solution will have direct effect on me and my land. What right have the government got to decide my lands fate whether I am there or not given the history and it's effects? We as TCs have to think outside the box and realise our strengths. This is not easy with the ruling families feuding. This is relevant on both sides BTW.

Well said, Zan.

[zan]

I understand what you are saying zan I came from the same place as you, but your reason for not returning basically is money, if you have lots of it you would move the whole family here tomorrow, this is quite normal. I am not challenging your love for Cyprus north or south Im trying to state facts, you live and work in the UK, your life is there, why should I dictate to you about what you should do there, I cant its not my place, its your chosen country your opinions and effective say is far more important than my opinions.

I am asking for the same, people who dont even live even Cyprus can of course express their opinions but it has no significance in the grand scheme of things, its ineffective and these people will not even be buried in Cyprus, like Kikapoo he has no connections left with Cyprus he a diluted individual with no offspring that can relate to Cyprus, why should you have say in my life in Cyprus when you dont even live here?

Ultimately yes, it is about money but only to have my loved ones with me. I also feel that I would be cutting off my nose to spite my face because it would take away any power I had to effect the end result. Obviously we are at odds with that. You are right in my vote having effect on your daily life but it doesn't have to be like that. Voting on a solution only maybe. You cannot deny that a solution will have direct effect on me and my land. What right have the government got to decide my lands fate whether I am there or not given the history and it's effects? We as TCs have to think outside the box and realise our strengths. This is not easy with the ruling families feuding. This is relevant on both sides BTW.

Well said, Zan.

The difference is Kiks, you have effectively given your vote to the south. You have holed the hull and jumped ship putting those on board in peril. If I were you I would rather drown than get back on the ship and be torn to bits. I really wouldn't have the cheek anyway but then I am not you

[Kikapu]

I understand what you are saying zan I came from the same place as you, but your reason for not returning basically is money, if you have lots of it you would move the whole family here tomorrow, this is quite normal. I am not challenging your love for Cyprus north or south Im trying to state facts, you live and work in the UK, your life is there, why should I dictate to you about what you should do there, I cant its not my place, its your chosen country your opinions and effective say is far more important than my opinions.

I am asking for the same, people who dont even live even Cyprus can of course express their opinions but it has no significance in the grand scheme of things, its ineffective and these people will not even be buried in Cyprus, like Kikapoo he has no connections left with Cyprus he a diluted individual with no offspring that can relate to Cyprus, why should you have say in my life in Cyprus when you dont even live here?

Ultimately yes, it is about money but only to have my loved ones with me. I also feel that I would be cutting off my nose to spite my face because it would take away any power I had to effect the end result. Obviously we are at odds with that. You are right in my vote having effect on your daily life but it doesn't have to be like that. Voting on a solution only maybe. You cannot deny that a solution will have direct effect on me and my land. What right have the government got to decide my lands fate whether I am there or not given the history and it's effects? We as TCs have to think outside the box and realise our strengths. This is not easy with the ruling families feuding. This is relevant on both sides BTW.

Well said, Zan.

The difference is Kiks, you have effectively given your vote to the south. You have holed the hull and jumped ship putting those on board in peril. If I were you I would rather drown than get back on the ship and be torn to bits. I really wouldn't have the cheek anyway but then I am not you

No Zan, there's no difference between us in what you wrote. You are just trying to give VP some face saving gestures at my expense . My vote is for Cyprus and for ALL Cypriots who are for True Democracy and equal rights to every citizens. If the south agrees with my views and the north doesn't, then hooray to the south and pooh to the north. It is as simple as that.

[zan]

Then wait for the " Cyprus" you are talking about to materialise then you can cast your vote.

[Lordo]

nonsense kik baby you accept tcs becoming a minority. there will be no equality without bbf. when the gcs realise it then we shall have peace but of course as per usual the gcs are too stupid to relaise it and by the time they do it will be too late. just like the way they refused maras, all the land south of the lefgosa magusa highway and parts of guzelyurt in 78 when it was given to them without any strings attached. thankfully they had the stupidity to refuse it and here we are, they are still asking for it now. yeah right and pigs will fly right over the border.