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How to solve everything - Get a good number 2 in!

Postby pumpernickle » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:27 pm

That wasnt meant to be rude.

I mean, in quite an Austin Powers kinda way, that there is a simple solution to the Cyprus problem except no-one has realised it yet.

The Vice President's position is vacant, and remains so, as it needs to be filled by a Turk. So why not just fill it with a Turk?! That way you could by pass all this referendum bullshit that basically means nothing will ever happen because the Greeks are like the palestinians in this respect....they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

No deal with ever happen cos it'll never be good enough for the Hotel owners of Protaras and Cafe owners of Paphos who wants low taxes and an easy ride...

With a Turk in at number two, the whole political system would be rendered into deadlock, and the only way to break it would be to reunify the two sides quickly, and to resume a normal, healthy political entity and constitution.

Bobs yer Uncle, Fanny's indoors putting a log or two on the fire and Bernie's out back adding some kerosene on the Barbie!

Ahem. Now I want my kickback for being the dog's bollocks of Great Ideas.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:25 am

No deal with ever happen cos it'll never be good enough for the Hotel owners of Protaras and Cafe owners of Paphos who wants low taxes and an easy ride...

While any deal will be good for the British and the Americans who will have in Cyprus their huge bases, their Echelons etc. (since they will not allow anything else) Thats what you mean?

I tell you what: Accept for your country what you believe we should accept, and then come to give lectures about "hotel and cafe owners".

Do you believe we are second category people and we should have less human and democratic rights than others?
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Postby zan » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:26 am

Just a wonderin who this Turk would be?
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:58 am

Tahir who plays Habib from Fat Pizza(Australian Sit com), they're big and they're cheesy.
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Postby Main_Source » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:58 am

How about Ali Campbell from UB40?
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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:22 am

to leave the jokes behind..this untainable bc in a way that would mean returning and accepting the 1960 constitution. this is sth that we would like but not the tcs. moreover if it is supposed to happen before a solution that wouldnt be -i guess- also accepted by us either.
but it would be interesting to have such a proposal moving around...just to see the reactions
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Postby pumpernickle » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:32 pm

i dont get the 'accept for your country' piece of advice, sorry.

Is that to say I should not profer an opinion or suggestion on how to solve the Cyprus problem unless it is highly flattering or uncritical of official, nationalistic lines?

anyway, all I'm saying is that you fulfil the Constitution that YOU have decided to keep! despite the glaring change in Circumstances over the last 31 years.

And for your guide, Greek Cyprus is my country. My lineage goes back through my Grandparents in historical villages here, so the 'mind your own business' line wont wash am fraid.
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Postby UKTurk » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:19 pm

The reality is that Northern Cyprus is getting stronger by the day. Just recently as I'm sure your all aware the the European Court of Human Rights recognises Northern Cyprus courts. Our economy is growing and the wage gap between North and South is shrinking. Condoleezza Rice even vistit Talat.

The bottom line is the Turks voted for unification but the Greeks didn't. You want separation we dont.
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Postby pumpernickle » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:27 pm

Get real UK Turk. The North of Cyprus is a third world s*** hole, and either you know it, or you walk around all day long with a guide dog and a pair of very dark Ray Banns.

I'll be collecting my pension from the back end of a zimmerframe, begging kids from the estate to pick up my fallen dentures off the dust swept floor, before the economy in the North becomes a half that of the South. It's screwed. $300 million of direct aid from Turkey aint enough to run a country, especially as my EBAY account is responsible for a greater Export / Import trade than Turkish Cypriot business.

Leave it out - no-one believes your sh*te. Turkey has screwed over the Turkish Cypriots, leaving them to wallow in poverty and it aint changing one bit.

The EU have main certain small concessions in order to smooth a possible future transition of power vis a vis unificaton. That doesn't mean that the turgid bit of territory north of the green line is going to be any more internationally recognised than my anus.
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Postby UKTurk » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:46 pm

Turkey saved the Turkish Cypriots from extinction.

You dont have to believe anything!

Turkish Cypriot land prices up 172% in two years
23/11/2005
www.financialmirror.com

Economy also catching up


Land prices in northern Cyprus have rocketed by 172% in two years and prices of housing units have leapt 36%, according to research carried out by S. Platis Economic Research and sponsored by the Peace Research Institute of Oslo (PRIO).

This is much faster growth than in the south, where land prices have risen by 14% and house prices by 10% in the same period between the first half of 2003 and the first half of 2005.

These are just some of the preliminary findings of wider paper that will be presented on Saturday by the authors, Director of S. Platis Economic Research Dr Stelios Platis, Stelios Oprhanides and Fiona Mullen at a conference hosted by PRIO at Ledra Palace entitled “Peacebuilding in Divided Societies”.

The full-day conference will hold discussions and workshops on property, immigration and approaches to the teaching of history.

The authors gathered a large database of asking prices in the north and used the BuySell database in the south as part of a wider project to test the viability of the property regime under a post-solution scenario.

Although they found evidence of a slowdown in prices after the Orams case, when a Greek Cypriot filed a court case against a British couple that had built on his land, they found that prices continue to rise on a year-on-year basis.

Economy also catching up

The research also found that incomes in the north are also catching up with the south. Within just three years, GNP per capita in the north rose from 31.4% of the south in 2002 to 41.3% of the south in 2004.

This is related to the difference in growth rates.

While real GNP growth in the north averaged 9.3% in 2002-04, it averaged only 3.6% in the south. In fact, the economy in the north has been rising faster than the economy in the south for ten years: at an average 4.4% in 1995-2004, compared with 3.6% in the south.

A rise in per capita incomes and a rise in property prices would have an important impact on the viability of the property regime as envisaged in the Annan Plan.

On Saturday the authors will also present the results of their viability test for the Property Board (the body charged under the Annan Plan with property restitution and compensation) under four different price-growth scenarios.
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