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[B25]

Eroglu knows that a TC state is not viable and its not. So he will now collapse the talks and blame the people he is trying to frack over.

I do not see anything Cypriot in him.

Maxi, im sure i've read somewhere on CF that Erogluey is from Turkey, not Cyprus. Of course there is nothing Cypriot in him, he is a Turkey slave.

[Nikitas]

Eroglu, I heard on Greek TV during the Annan plan hoopla, is a TC and some of his close relatives were killed by GCs during the 1963-64 troubles. Perhaps this experience is overshadowing his approach to the issue.

As to territory, the issue is more complicated than it looks. There are present as well as future issues to be tackled, like the the fate of the SBAs, where the TCs know that they would have a hard time claiming any part of the Dhekelia base considering all villages and lands there are totally GC (Xylotymbou, Xylofagou, etc).

It is important that this issue is settled so as to deprive the British and anyone else of the ability to cause trouble in the future.

Then there is the continental shelf and the Exclusive Economic Zone. Does each constituent state have is own EEZ or do they share the islands EEZ in common? Each choice has its drawbacks for Turkey. If the TC constituent state has its own then it will touch the Turkish EEZ creating a sizeable Turkish exclusive domain. But, if they go that way they relinquish claims to the south EEZ that has proven reserves of oil and gas. They know too that if they go the international recognition way they will have no choice but to kiss the gas goodbye for ever.

They must be thinking hard about letting go of some fields and orchards just to get a serious claim on oil and gas, I can imagine the arguments between the chauvinist diehards and the modernists who do not value growing their own kolokasi as much as cashing in on energy revenues. The trick here is to let go of land in such a way as not to lose face and posture. So expect some grandstanding over this in the autumn.

There are other factors too but they cannot be discussed in an open forum.

What it all boils down to is that partition is turning out to be more complicated than Turkey had initially thought. And with BBF we locked into a partition game plan. No matter how they paint it, BBF is partition. They wanted it, now they don't know what to do with it.

[Maximus]

I dont think anyone wants a BBF really and it seems that every Turk calls themselves Cypriot.It is a partition in disguise where it will appear that we are a united country, on paper.

They will accept partition and still call themselves Cypriot when their incorporation is clearly a "Turkish republic" in Cyprus.

its not right,

[boulio]

if the choice is between a racist,disfunctional bbf(confederation) or partition,partition on agreed terms is a thousand times better.

[Maximus]

if the choice is between a racist,disfunctional bbf(confederation) or partition,partition on agreed terms is a thousand times better.

its not a choice.

Cyprus is occupied. its not divided but it is physically partitioned now.

why recognize them if they want to be Turks with Turkish guarantees? Turkey is a stones throw away.

Thats where they should be, not stealing bits and the identities of other countries.

Ottoman style.

[Kikapu]

Eroglu knows that a TC state is not viable and its not. So he will now collapse the talks and blame the people he is trying to frack over.

I do not see anything Cypriot in him.

Maxi, im sure i've read somewhere on CF that Erogluey is from Turkey, not Cyprus. Of course there is nothing Cypriot in him, he is a Turkey slave.

I'm sorry to say, but that info on Eroglu being a Turk came from non other than Mr know it all (not) MrH.

The fact that Eroglu is up to his neck in Turkey's butt might give the impression that he is a Turk, much like ALL the other Fascist Partitionist.

[Maximus]

Eroglu knows that a TC state is not viable and its not. So he will now collapse the talks and blame the people he is trying to frack over.

I do not see anything Cypriot in him.

Maxi, im sure i've read somewhere on CF that Erogluey is from Turkey, not Cyprus. Of course there is nothing Cypriot in him, he is a Turkey slave.

I'm sorry to say, but that info on Eroglu being a Turk came from non other than Mr know it all (not) MrH.

The fact that Eroglu is up to his neck in Turkey's butt might give the impression that he is a Turk, much like ALL the other Fascist Partitionist.

He acts like a Turk, never mind what it says on a bit of paper.

[bill cobbett]

Errr ... Regarding Eroglu, bad news for the CF Varoshotes... guess where the bugger was born...

[Viewpoint]

Its BBF yet you people are still fighting it.....thats why no solution will be found.

[bill cobbett]

Its BBF yet you people are still fighting it.....thats why no solution will be found.

Take it up with your fellow racist Eroglu, who throws a tantrum at the mention of the word...

... TERRITORY