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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby Paphitis » Thu May 29, 2014 2:49 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Robin Hood wrote: A single or sometimes two Russian attack helicopters of the Cyprus Military.


Joint military exercises are perfectly acceptable. Also, it's one thing to attend an Air Show and display (those are by invitation only), but it's quite another to willy-nilly train without permission in another country's sovereign territory!


They are not without permission either.

The Brits always submit their Flight Plans, issue NOTAMS and communicate with Larnaca Approach so that their activities do not endanger Civil Aviation. That actually involves getting a "Airways Clearance" from the RoC. They always have their Transponders on with a Nicosia FIR issued Transponder Code and communicate with Nicosia Centre at all times and appear on their SSR Radar. Furthermore, they Brits have 2 SAR helicopters which are flying in and out of the Nicosia FIR all the time and many times these helicopters are used to assist the RoC with SAR and Law Enforcement as necessary.

They also fly within the Nicosia FIR and have another area where they train which is North West of the Akamas or near Polis and this area is administered by Nicosia Centre. They never fly over occupied Cyprus and if they did, they do not acknowledge the illegitimate Ercan Control or may just pay lip service to it as opposed to Nicosia Centre.

So stop talking rubbish! :roll:
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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby kurupetos » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:38 pm

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kurupetos wrote:You are a traitor RW. Why should a Cypriot be excited after watching these foreign planes? :twisted:

They only remind me that 3% of Cyprus is occupied by Brits. I reckon on 20 July, you will be excited watching the Turkish Stars. :twisted:


You're an idiot!

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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:54 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
kurupetos wrote:You are a traitor RW. Why should a Cypriot be excited after watching these foreign planes? :twisted:

They only remind me that 3% of Cyprus is occupied by Brits. I reckon on 20 July, you will be excited watching the Turkish Stars. :twisted:


You're an idiot!

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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:17 pm

...if they practice regularly, here, because the skies are perfect for it, my hope is that the Republic may encourage such practice, here, for others. it would not surprise me if the Pilots themselves would enjoy the competition, needless to say such a venture would be interesting as an event, if it was organized. The Goodwill that can be expressed, politically, for all the teams involved, together as such, has its benefits as well, in these circumstances, it would be possible to meet the flyers of Russia, China, France, USA, Canada, and others, who would come to demonstrate their skills with these 'Brits'. I wonder if there is a Pilot's Association in Cyprus that could take on such an enterprise?

@kurupetos, unlike you, I can learn (from "others"), and somehow I can help myself too, that is to say (extending my original post to a hyperbole), being Cypriot, I can open myself to the possibility of my helpfulness, for "others" benefiting "me" (a tourist or a little boy, looking up in the sky), and in this case, if such a dream would fructify, probably resulting in an ability to do the same, to fly with such grace; I am no traitor, you are jealous, that's all.
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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:07 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...if they practice regularly, here, because the skies are perfect for it, my hope is that the Republic may encourage such practice, here, for others. it would not surprise me if the Pilots themselves would enjoy the competition, needless to say such a venture would be interesting as an event, if it was organized. The Goodwill that can be expressed, politically, for all the teams involved, together as such, has its benefits as well, in these circumstances, it would be possible to meet the flyers of Russia, China, France, USA, Canada, and others, who would come to demonstrate their skills with these 'Brits'. I wonder if there is a Pilot's Association in Cyprus that could take on such an enterprise?

@kurupetos, unlike you, I can learn (from "others"), and somehow I can help myself too, that is to say (extending my original post to a hyperbole), being Cypriot, I can open myself to the possibility of my helpfulness, for "others" benefiting "me" (a tourist or a little boy, looking up in the sky), and in this case, if such a dream would fructify, probably resulting in an ability to do the same, to fly with such grace; I am no traitor, you are jealous, that's all.


Why not!

The RoC could organise its own Air Show at Paphos Airport and have the Red Arrows and others attend that.

Yes it would be good for Cyprus, and the Red Arrows as well as everyone else would be welcome.

Usually with these types of ventures it is the Government that needs to take the lead role. They are hard to organize and facilities and infrastructure are needed such as Paphos Airport.

They could ask the Brits to host the Air Show at Akrotiri perhaps and let the public have access to the base. It would be a good PR initiative from their perspective.

However, I doubt the Chinese and Russians would be welcome there.

The Chinese Search Aircraft (MH370) actually landed at RAAF Pearce near Perth and the aircraft was placed under armed sentry and parked at a remote spot. No one was allowed to leave the aircraft and they were told to leave immediately.
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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:29 pm

...indeed, it is why I suggest that an Association of Flyers in Cyprus, take the lead, in asking for this help, enabling them to educate and entertain, who will organize sponsorships, the volunteers, and the safety concerns that an airport like Paphos would require, who can through their membership, and through the support they get, mobilise these resources so that they are self sustaining, if held annually, likely profitable over the years as Festivals are apt to be, because they better themselves as they grow.

...indeed, of interest to flying enthusiasts all over the world, if some practiced with the Brits in Akrotiri, and some, did not. it would be so cool in Cyprus, to be there, when all the flyers practice, and when they come to win.

...better than the Grand Prix, I say.
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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:22 pm

Red arrows cause a lot of noise pollution at a densely populated area, children cry from fear, women get terrified they might fall on their heads, nearby buildings develop cracks ...
Other than that I would only care to watch them when they will figure an air bow to their Queen. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:31 pm

yup, better than the Grand Prix.
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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:53 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...if they practice regularly, here, because the skies are perfect for it, my hope is that the Republic may encourage such practice, here, for others. it would not surprise me if the Pilots themselves would enjoy the competition, needless to say such a venture would be interesting as an event, if it was organized. The Goodwill that can be expressed, politically, for all the teams involved, together as such, has its benefits as well, in these circumstances, it would be possible to meet the flyers of Russia, China, France, USA, Canada, and others, who would come to demonstrate their skills with these 'Brits'. I wonder if there is a Pilot's Association in Cyprus that could take on such an enterprise?

@kurupetos, unlike you, I can learn (from "others"), and somehow I can help myself too, that is to say (extending my original post to a hyperbole), being Cypriot, I can open myself to the possibility of my helpfulness, for "others" benefiting "me" (a tourist or a little boy, looking up in the sky), and in this case, if such a dream would fructify, probably resulting in an ability to do the same, to fly with such grace; I am no traitor, you are jealous, that's all.

The British empire is over, RW. Accept it and move on. :wink:
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Re: ...have you seen the Red Arrows?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:01 pm

...look who's talking.
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