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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 28, 2014 7:10 am

Its not about numbers, its about underhand tactics in 2014 used by GCs to exclude TCs, its no different from what GCs performed in the past. If the amount of TC voters was so imsignificant why not allow them to vote with their id cards and avoid this fiasco and and the legal backlash? why agrrivate an already sensative issue for the sake of being right, your officials are crap, they reduced people to tears and then went for a smoke. You people should be standing up for democracy and the right for every citizen to vote regardless of their ethnic backround but instead you continue to show the same stupity and ignorance your forfathers showed when pushing Cyprus towards division.

This whole fiasco is an almighty slap in the face of those TCs who thought they would be treated as equals and serves as another reminder of how we would be treated in a united Cyprus. Well done GCs.
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby boulio » Wed May 28, 2014 2:00 pm

May imask why the 57000 that are registered only 2000 voted?
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 28, 2014 3:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Its not about numbers, its about underhand tactics in 2014 used by GCs to exclude TCs, its no different from what GCs performed in the past. If the amount of TC voters was so imsignificant why not allow them to vote with their id cards and avoid this fiasco and and the legal backlash? why agrrivate an already sensative issue for the sake of being right, your officials are crap, they reduced people to tears and then went for a smoke. You people should be standing up for democracy and the right for every citizen to vote regardless of their ethnic backround but instead you continue to show the same stupity and ignorance your forfathers showed when pushing Cyprus towards division.

This whole fiasco is an almighty slap in the face of those TCs who thought they would be treated as equals and serves as another reminder of how we would be treated in a united Cyprus. Well done GCs.


Did you vote, VP ...??? ... and did you encourage some of the 59,000 who could vote, to vote...???
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 28, 2014 3:51 pm

Same reason why it was the lowest turn out in EU history....you are obviously trying to avoid the real issue by playing the numbers game, the GCs were clearly up to their old tricks of manipulating the situation to exclude TCs and people like you support them blind to the reality of the situation.
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 28, 2014 3:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Same reason why it was the lowest turn out in EU history....you are obviously trying to avoid the real issue by playing the numbers game, the GCs were clearly up to their old tricks of manipulating the situation to exclude TCs and people like you support them blind to the reality of the situation.


Answer the questions...

"... Did you vote, VP ...??? ... and did you encourage some of the 59,000 who could vote, to vote...??? ..."
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 28, 2014 4:01 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Same reason why it was the lowest turn out in EU history....you are obviously trying to avoid the real issue by playing the numbers game, the GCs were clearly up to their old tricks of manipulating the situation to exclude TCs and people like you support them blind to the reality of the situation.


Answer the questions...

"... Did you vote, VP ...??? ... and did you encourage some of the 59,000 who could vote, to vote...??? ..."


You answer the questions I have been asking in my last 5 posts;

Did the Gcs reconfirm their addresses? if not then why were they allowed to vote and not TCs?

Why werent the TCs asked to provide address verification when obtaining ID cards?

When we have elections all we have to do is turn up with our ID card which is checked against the electoral register and we are allowed to vote.

What has your address got to do with your right to vote, if you are citizen of that country have been given a ID card which indicates you have passed the necessary requirements to become a citizen with a constitutional right to vote, then why this fiasco?

Doesnt this smell of the exact same tactics of many years ago when the GCs voted 99% for enosis but excluded TCs.

and only then will I address yours.
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby Maximus » Wed May 28, 2014 4:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Same reason why it was the lowest turn out in EU history....you are obviously trying to avoid the real issue by playing the numbers game, the GCs were clearly up to their old tricks of manipulating the situation to exclude TCs and people like you support them blind to the reality of the situation.


Answer the questions...

"... Did you vote, VP ...??? ... and did you encourage some of the 59,000 who could vote, to vote...??? ..."


You answer the questions I have been asking in my last 5 posts;

Did the Gcs reconfirm their addresses? if not then why were they allowed to vote and not TCs?

Why werent the TCs asked to provide address verification when obtaining ID cards?

When we have elections all we have to do is turn up with our ID card which is checked against the electoral register and we are allowed to vote.

What has your address got to do with your right to vote, if you are citizen of that country have been given a ID card which indicates you have passed the necessary requirements to become a citizen with a constitutional right to vote, then why this fiasco?

Doesnt this smell of the exact same tactics of many years ago when the GCs voted 99% for enosis but excluded TCs.

and only then will I address yours.


I have an ID card issued by a government of a country that I no longer live in. Do I have the right to vote there and am I automatically enrolled? no. The GC's in Cyprus were not automatically enrolled either so yes, I presume they had to reconfirm their address to be eligible to vote.

Instead of recognising the favor that 57000 TC's were eligible and automatically enrolled to make their voting lives easier, it seems that the majority voice from the TC's is to whinge, moan and cry about an abysmal performance and blame the GC's like some donkey on crack. Regardless of the fact that 99.5% of TC's chose not to bother to vote.

What tactics do you smell here VP when many years ago, 99% of GC's voted for enosis, which was about 80% of the vote. This was ignored by your community and soem other players wasnt it?. If this vote was counted and respected, which it wasn't, then Enosis would have passed by majority vote even if all TC's voted OXI. You sound even more desperate when you blatantly convolute logic and what actually came to pass. You do not want Cyprus to be democratic anyway, your community never did, so your comment is just perverted ;

Why don't you answer Bills question now.
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby Lordo » Wed May 28, 2014 8:08 pm

here is a question, was there any voting registration forms in tc language for the tcs to fill in and were they sent to their addresses. thats what happens in civilised countries.

was there any attempt made to contact the tcs living in the north of the border regarding the election.
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby bill cobbett » Wed May 28, 2014 8:26 pm

Lordo wrote:here is a question, was there any voting registration forms in tc language for the tcs to fill in and were they sent to their addresses. thats what happens in civilised countries.

was there any attempt made to contact the tcs living in the north of the border regarding the election.


Hear there were newspaper ads, radio broadcasts, TV broadcasts ... and this website, all in Turkish... http://www.euroelections2014.gov.cy/tr/index.htm
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Re: TC voting in euro elections

Postby Maximus » Wed May 28, 2014 8:54 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Lordo wrote:here is a question, was there any voting registration forms in tc language for the tcs to fill in and were they sent to their addresses. thats what happens in civilised countries.

was there any attempt made to contact the tcs living in the north of the border regarding the election.


Hear there were newspaper ads, radio broadcasts, TV broadcasts ... and this website, all in Turkish... http://www.euroelections2014.gov.cy/tr/index.htm



The republic of Cyprus does not have control over the occupied areas so those forms could "go missing in the post".

and

If they were not eligible to vote because the republic of Cyprus did not have / could not verify a residential address, those 30,000 people probably would not have got or been able to get the forms by post anyway.

so,

Save the trees, get up, go register AND end the occupation of Cyprus.
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