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[B25]

Basically more racist benefits for the TCs. And they have the nerve to complain as well.

This is the way I see it too,

They have taken this favor and turned it against the RoC and the GC's too.

Here's some figures:

" ... Nicolaides says 58,637 Turkish Cypriots automatically gained the right to vote in the European elections, with a new law adopted in March, adding that 1,869 did so. .. "

Come on where are the other 57,000 voters

But hold on we have another clown that states:

"Exact numbers of how many people were refused the vote vary, with Alev Tugberk, a candidate from Action group, saying around 40,000 Turkish Cypriots were prevented from casting their ballots on ‘dubious grounds’."

He might just as well said 100,000, so you can see ladies and gentlemen another Turkish BS propaganda exercise. As if the voting is going to be Annulled, for these parasites.

Really, 40,000 turned away what a Plonker.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/chief-retu ... 737-69.htm

[Nikitas]

The inference I draw from the posts is that 57000 TCs attempted to vote and they were refused. Is this is how it was?

How was the traffic on Sunday with 57000 people moving through the check points? It must have been hectic.

[Lordo]

do you really think they cared what they caused. would they have lost sleep over tcs being unable to cross and vote. which bloody planet are you from my friend.

[repulsewarrior]

...obviously, the "they" you are talking about didn't care how many Cypriots would be disenfranchised by their acts, Lordo; if there were 40,000 votes lost because these Turcophones declared living in an address within the Republic, (or no address at all), it is not hard to imagine that many thousands more were lost who were Grecophone, for the same reason: the list was published too late to be corrected.

[Lordo]

no rw the terks did no such thing. the forms were filled in correctly. the problem arose with the swine who transferred the information on the computer system. the trouble is they are still using their floppy drives. ask gr and xredjehalo and charluis for that matter they are expert at floppies.

[Viewpoint]

Did the Gcs reconfirm their addresses? if not then why were they allowed to vote and not TCs?

Why werent the TCs asked to provide address verification when obtaining ID cards?

When we have elections all we have to do is turn up with our ID card which is checked against the electoral register and we are allowed to vote.

What has your address got to do with your right to vote, if you are citizen of that country have been given a ID card which indicates you have passed the necessary requirements to become a citizen with a constitutional right to vote, then why this fiasco?

Doesnt this smell of the exact same tactics of many years ago when the GCs voted 99% for enosis but excluded TCs.

If the number was only 150 people why not avoid this mess which was created by GC incompetence and allow these people to vote, the votes would have no impact whatsoever.

The biggest lesson was given to people like Erçil and Birinci who thought that that GCs would treat them as equals, its is another lesson in GC style administration and how it would be if we were ever stupid enough to accept a unitary state allowing GCs to manipulate and exclude us from effectively having a say in our own country....Im sure these pro union supporters have changed their opinions, actions always speaks louder than words.

We hear today that this fiasco will be taken to court and even further if the GC courts do not own up to the GC incompetence.

[repulsewarrior]

...are there 30,000-40,000 Turcophones living within the Republic? how many of them voted in the last election (that used "the" ID card)?

easy questions one can ask, how many Grecophones moved? how many changed their address? How many vote from a Family home, even if they live somewhere else? also valid questions for which if there were answers it would be because the roles are up to date.

your premise is wrong vp, if you really want answers...

...everything depends on where you declare you reside, and a residence is strictly defined so that it is limited to a Principal Residence, in voting. you, as a voter cannot decide on your way to Paphos to vote at a polling station along the road, the polling station is very specific. why this fiasco? ask yourself what the bureaucracy in the north would do if suddenly they had to encourage Greek Cypriots to vote in an election? would they get it right, perfectly the first time? if I had a Cyprus ID card, I would want my home, the one I was forced to leave to be my primary address, because in my heart it is. my guess is that for many there is a reason why the address on the ID card would not correspond with a record of who lives where for voting purposes, and as we can see, the numbers, as a total may be even higher, given that there may be many voters in the Republic who have never voted, but who could decide to vote, and who would discover they could not, for the same reason.

[Lordo]

rw it is not rocket science. if they decided that they would allow tcs to vote with their id then why stop them on a technicality especially one created by a gc clerk or clerks. the paper forms people filled in clearly specified an address in the north, and yet they were entered as in the south. a cock up is a cock up but when 45 percent of people of one group are prevented from voting, that vote does not count. no matter which way you look at it, it is full of bullshit from here to kingdom come. you can give all the legal arguments you like it is another wedge between the two people and another nail in the coffin of unity. the real question is, is it the final one.

[Maximus]

rw it is not rocket science. if they decided that they would allow tcs to vote with their id then why stop them on a technicality especially one created by a gc clerk or clerks. the paper forms people filled in clearly specified an address in the north, and yet they were entered as in the south. a cock up is a cock up but when 45 percent of people of one group are prevented from voting, that vote does not count. no matter which way you look at it, it is full of bullshit from here to kingdom come. you can give all the legal arguments you like it is another wedge between the two people and another nail in the coffin of unity. the real question is, is it the final one.

What do you have to say about the Greek Cypriots that were denied their democratic rights by your community, that ended with a foreign invasion, ethnic cleansing and the occupation of their country and property for 40 years, with all attempts being made by your community to pervert the law and revert Cyprus back to an apartheid system?

what do you say about their vote for enosis not being counted?

A cock up? a piss operation? Kingdom come BS?

So, what grievances do we have here re Bordo? less than 2000 TC's turning up on the day that have the combined power to elect bugger all with the rest screaming foul about it because a few hundred people that would not have made a difference were turned away for not being eligible to vote.

[Maximus]

EU Expats voting in the euro election

Almost three million foreigners from other EU countries could have voted in Germany in Sunday's election, but only a handful did. Others had problems voting.

One British expat told The Local he was stopped at his polling station, despite being registered. Shaun Trezise from Newbury in Berkshire told The Local he was turned away from his polling station in Bochum, North Rhine-Westphalia, despite being sent a letter from electoral authorities confirming he was registered.

“She didn't say why. I didn't really know what the rules were on voting as a non-German citizen so I didn't argue too much. No one knew why so it's a bit of a mystery really.”

http://www.thelocal.de/20140527/british ... in-germany

Notice the difference?