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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby kurupetos » Sun May 25, 2014 1:36 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The funny thing is that when referring to God each one of us has the same thing in mind. A Creator!! Some of us say- erm... I don't know if there is a "creator" or not, and if there is one, what he wants from us and what our purpose of existence is, but there is not not even on of us that can refuse the fact that there is a plan of infinite complexity and accuracy both in design and functioning in this world.

On the creator.

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On the "intelligent design" thesis according to my son, nature tries random but repeated experiments in design, ie mutations in DNA and what works for a time, because it finds a niche, survives until that niche disappears. As other niches emerge so in due time new species of creatures, which may be similar in some ways to extinct species which had filled similar niches in the past, then emerge.

Who created the universe then? :lol:
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 25, 2014 2:26 pm

kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The funny thing is that when referring to God each one of us has the same thing in mind. A Creator!! Some of us say- erm... I don't know if there is a "creator" or not, and if there is one, what he wants from us and what our purpose of existence is, but there is not not even on of us that can refuse the fact that there is a plan of infinite complexity and accuracy both in design and functioning in this world.

On the creator.

image.jpg


On the "intelligent design" thesis according to my son, nature tries random but repeated experiments in design, ie mutations in DNA and what works for a time, because it finds a niche, survives until that niche disappears. As other niches emerge so in due time new species of creatures, which may be similar in some ways to extinct species which had filled similar niches in the past, then emerge.

Who created the universe then? :lol:


Big Bang!
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun May 25, 2014 2:32 pm

kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The funny thing is that when referring to God each one of us has the same thing in mind. A Creator!! Some of us say- erm... I don't know if there is a "creator" or not, and if there is one, what he wants from us and what our purpose of existence is, but there is not not even on of us that can refuse the fact that there is a plan of infinite complexity and accuracy both in design and functioning in this world.

On the creator.

image.jpg


On the "intelligent design" thesis according to my son, nature tries random but repeated experiments in design, ie mutations in DNA and what works for a time, because it finds a niche, survives until that niche disappears. As other niches emerge so in due time new species of creatures, which may be similar in some ways to extinct species which had filled similar niches in the past, then emerge.

Who created the universe then? :lol:


Look at the image...
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 2:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Who created the universe then? :lol:

Big Bang!

Who created the "Big Bang" ?

See the problem? :wink:

No matter what you come up with… the question will always remain:

“But who created that?”

…in an infinite loop!

But nobody in the right mind can say… “But who created God” because God is everlasting (infinite), has no beginning an no end so he doesn’t need a creator!

Now do you see the light, why only a God can kick-start such a process? :)
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 3:04 pm

"Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" ...dilemma is more evidence that there's a God as neither the chicken nor the egg could come before the other without SUPERNATURAL intervention!

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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 25, 2014 3:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Who created the universe then? :lol:

Big Bang!

Who created the "Big Bang" ?

See the problem? :wink:

No matter what you come up with… the question will always remain:

“But who created that?”

…in an infinite loop!

But nobody in the right mind can say… “But who created God” because God is everlasting (infinite), has no beginning an no end so he doesn’t need a creator!

Now do you see the light, why only a God can kick-start such a process? :)


No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 3:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:

No but I certainly see your hard-headedness! :lol:
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 25, 2014 3:24 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:

No but I certainly see your hard-headedness! :lol:


It's just common sense and reason! :lol:
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 25, 2014 3:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No I don't see the problem in some immaculate creator not existing because no one created the creator! See the problem? :wink:

No but I certainly see your hard-headedness! :lol:

It's just common sense and reason! :lol:

My dear Paphitis… although you certainly have the ability to use common sense you’re one of those billions of individuals who haven’t tapped into it yet! :)

For common sense would tell you that neither the chicken nor the egg can come first so something or someone must INTENTIONALLY place the very first specimen or two down on the game board so that the reproduction process may begin!

The same goes for every single species on Earth including humans… the very first male and female of each species *MUST* have been placed on the theater by a superpower!
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Re: Who is Muslim?

Postby T_C » Sun May 25, 2014 3:45 pm

If god does indeed exist then it would be some form of alien life form, and the rules which apply to us would not apply in reverse to the creator..

Asking "if god created us, who created god" would be like an AI computer built by humans asking itself "if god programmed my existence, then whom coded god?" The computer would be oblivious to human existence and everything it is compromised of...it would not be able to imagine the concept of birth because it would be trying to answer the question with what it knows of it's own existence- codes!

Birth and creation is how we came to exist, it could not possibly apply for the creator of that creation, because there would be as vast a difference between our existence and that of gods, as there would be between us and any form of AI we create within a computer.
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