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[supporttheunderdog]

One must wonder why Kuru displays such tendencies...is he in denial about his own sexuality?

[Pyrpolizer]

Some children have already been raised by same sex couples and in some cases these kids have been raised to be more sensitive, tolerant and very loving. They did not end up with an extra eye on their forehead or became gay.

I am yet to see just ONE scientifically approved survey that would provide separate results for
a)adopted children by gays
b)adopted children by Lesbians
on an equal to equal comparison basis with children raised by healthy and financially equal (on the average) heterosexual family.

Not even one exists.

Actually the first questionable surveys were done by homosexually oriented researchers for the specific purpose of getting rights for their groups. And surprise -surprise they all ended up with the same conclusion: that children in same-sex families are not only doing well, but in some ways, they’re doing better than the children of straight parents.
The Internet is full of those surveys that keep on copying each other and appear everywhere.

Those surveys have already been reviewed and done all over again, and the result is this:

Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):

Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
Have lower educational attainment
Report less safety and security in their family of origin
Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
Are more likely to suffer from depression
Have been arrested more often
If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female


Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver
Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have sex against their will."
Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
Use marijuana more frequently
Smoke more frequently
Watch TV for long periods more frequently
Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense

More about it here:
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study ... s-research

[Paphitis]

Some children have already been raised by same sex couples and in some cases these kids have been raised to be more sensitive, tolerant and very loving. They did not end up with an extra eye on their forehead or became gay.

I am yet to see just ONE scientifically approved survey that would provide separate results for
a)adopted children by gays
b)adopted children by Lesbians
on an equal to equal comparison basis with children raised by healthy and financially equal (on the average) heterosexual family.

Not even one exists.

Actually the first questionable surveys were done by homosexually oriented researchers for the specific purpose of getting rights for their groups. And surprise -surprise they all ended up with the same conclusion: that children in same-sex families are not only doing well, but in some ways, they’re doing better than the children of straight parents.
The Internet is full of those surveys that keep on copying each other and appear everywhere.

Those surveys have already been reviewed and done all over again, and the result is this:

Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):

Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
Have lower educational attainment
Report less safety and security in their family of origin
Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
Are more likely to suffer from depression
Have been arrested more often
If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female


Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver
Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have sex against their will."
Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
Use marijuana more frequently
Smoke more frequently
Watch TV for long periods more frequently
Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense

More about it here:
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study ... s-research

Without wanting to get into the science because I am unwilling to research this and couldn't care so much to warrant it, all I can say is I do not agree with you one single bit.

You will need to understand now that many countries including Australia actually allow same sex defacto couples to adopt and raise kids. They also allow artificial insemination for Lesbian couples, and in the most part there have been no issues.

[erolz66]

This report is from the family research council. You do know who these people are right ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

This is the same American conservative Christian group and lobbying organization that has produced the following gems of objective wisdom !

It also advocates for abstinence-only sex education, intelligent design and prayer in public schools, and the regulation of pornography and other "obscene, indecent, or profane programming" on broadcast and cable television.

I am sorry Pyrpolizer but if this is where you are getting you 'scientific evidence' from then you are in trouble.

[Get Real!]

And Lesbians do not hate men! I should know because a long time ago I tried chatting up this good looking girl. It was only after she told me that she was lesbian. Still managed to go out with both girls and had a brief affair with both at the same time!

Sheep don’t count Paphitis!

[Paphitis]

And Lesbians do not hate men! I should know because a long time ago I tried chatting up this good looking girl. It was only after she told me that she was lesbian. Still managed to go out with both girls and had a brief affair with both at the same time!

Sheep don’t count Paphitis!

You're just jealous that I picked up 2 Lesbians and had wild sex with both of them on a few occasions!

Fortune favours the brave my dear friend.

[Pyrpolizer]

Without wanting to get into the science because I am unwilling to research this and couldn't care so much to warrant it, all I can say is I do not agree with you one single bit.

You will need to understand now that many countries including Australia actually allow same sex defacto couples to adopt and raise kids. They also allow artificial insemination for Lesbian couples, and in the most part there have been no issues.

You may disagree all you like. Now would you care provide me the numbers of children given for adoption to gay couples and the number of children given for adoption to Lesbian couples in AUSTRALIA from year 2010 (the year that your law allowed these couples to apply for such adoptions) to date?
Should I assume the number is NONE? Should I assume there has been absolutely no survey concerning the final outcome of those children when they reached adulthood. Or better would you confirm it has been absolutely no survey done so far, because none of those children has reached adulthood yet?

[Pyrpolizer]

This report is from the family research council. You do know who these people are right ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

This is the same American conservative Christian group and lobbying organization that has produced the following gems of objective wisdom !

It also advocates for abstinence-only sex education, intelligent design and prayer in public schools, and the regulation of pornography and other "obscene, indecent, or profane programming" on broadcast and cable television.

I am sorry Pyrpolizer but if this is where you are getting you 'scientific evidence' from then you are in trouble.

What are you talking about Erolz??
Absolutely not, I am not getting my information from them.
And would you please try concentrating on the issue?
I never disputed the right of homo/lesbian people to form civil unions.
What I object and for valid reasons is the right of those people to adopt children.
There has been absolutely no credible survey proving that those people do fit for that purpose.

In fact all surveys done so far were by homosexually oriented researches for their own group benefit.
They got tiny samples most of them refer to lesbians raising their OWN children within their original heterosexual family, a tiny portion refers to lesbians raising their own children after getting divorced and living with another female partner. The very same surveys with still tiny samples get their conclusions from the equally tiny number of gay men raising their OWN children within their original heterosexual family, whereas there was not even one case in their so called surveys of gay men raising adopted children.

These surveys are only good for the garbage bin!

Just do your own search on youtube Erol. there you will find a lot of interviews from adults raised by their biological mothers within a lesbian environment. Most of them would do fine as EXPECTED.
There is not even ONE interview of an adult who was adopted and raised by gay men.
Does that tell you something?

If not just imagine what you would be today if you were adopted and raised by 2 gay men. 2 fathers i.e. Hmm... a total lunatic?

[Paphitis]

Without wanting to get into the science because I am unwilling to research this and couldn't care so much to warrant it, all I can say is I do not agree with you one single bit.

You will need to understand now that many countries including Australia actually allow same sex defacto couples to adopt and raise kids. They also allow artificial insemination for Lesbian couples, and in the most part there have been no issues.

You may disagree all you like.

Great! I ceretainly will! I hope that is OK with you!

Now would you care provide me the numbers of children given for adoption to gay couples and the number of children given for adoption to Lesbian couples in AUSTRALIA from year 2010 (the year that your law allowed these couples to apply for such adoptions) to date?

I have no idea and couldn't care enough to find out.

All I know is that the Authorities have got their shit together and their processes for adoption are very stringent. So if they say that a gay or lesbian couple is fit to adopt, then I can't argue with them.

Should I assume the number is NONE? Should I assume there has been absolutely no survey concerning the final outcome of those children when they reached adulthood. Or better would you confirm it has been absolutely no survey done so far, because none of those children has reached adulthood yet?

No they certainly have allowed same sex adoption. Not only that, but artificial insemination is LEGAL.

I found that out because when I went to a pre-natal class with my wife, sitting right next to us was a lesbian couple and one was pregnant. They seemed very lovely people as well and hence I have absolutely zero doubt that they will raise their child properly.

It's a fucking interesting country Australia without the busy bodies like you that seem to think they know best!

[erolz66]

You may disagree all you like. Now would you care provide me the numbers of children given for adoption to gay couples and the number of children given for adoption to Lesbian couples in AUSTRALIA from year 2010 (the year that your law allowed these couples to apply for such adoptions) to date?

I can give you numbers of how many children were living in same sex families as of 2011 in Australia.

The 2011 Census counted 6,300 children living in same-sex couple families, up from 3,400 in 2001.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected] ... 3#children

Nor is it accurate to say that it has only been possible for same sex couple to legally adopt in Australia since 2010, In some states it has been possible since 2002, in some states it is still not possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_adopt ... te_note-20