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[Paphitis]

Nothing will change in Cyprus. People will still be throwing stones at their houses, they will continue going to the police to report it and the police will be laughing at them, and unfortunately the vast majority will be refused a job and earn their living from prostitution.
Contrary to homosexual men Lesbians have almost no problem. Probably because women like to kiss and caress each other publicly anyway, without necessarily been lesbians.

That is bloody disgusting Pyro!

I like the attitude of the RoC Police though. The people that go to the police about such matters deserve to be laughed at.

As for marriage being a traditional exercise, well it can remain so as far as the Church is concerned, however, the State should legalise same sex civil unions because so many privileges and rights hinge on this especially. Things like Social Security and benefits, free medical care, tax returns and just going to the Bank for a Home Loan etc etc.

If they want to live together forever and be considered a couple, then they should have the same rights as other couples.

[Pyrpolizer]

Nothing will change in Cyprus. People will still be throwing stones at their houses, they will continue going to the police to report it and the police will be laughing at them, and unfortunately the vast majority will be refused a job and earn their living from prostitution.
Contrary to homosexual men Lesbians have almost no problem. Probably because women like to kiss and caress each other publicly anyway, without necessarily been lesbians.

That is bloody disgusting Pyro!

I like the attitude of the RoC Police though. The people that go to the police about such matters deserve to be laughed at.

As for marriage being a traditional exercise, well it can remain so as far as the Church is concerned, however, the State should legalise same sex civil unions because so many privileges and rights hinge on this especially. Things like Social Security and benefits, free medical care, tax returns and just going to the Bank for a Home Loan etc etc.

If they want to live together forever and be considered a couple, then they should have the same rights as other couples.

I agree with the social contract part.

[Mikiko]

It will be a long way until we see a gay marriage like in france .Unless it is enforced from EU like the recent Bail IN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NkA9EYgO2Q

Without the EU legislation homosexuals would still be considered second class people.

[Paphitis]

They are equals in every sense, so why should they not have equal rights?

I don't know what you mean by "equal in every sense" because that doesn't apply to any other aspect of life. All anyone can ask for is for their individual needs to be met wih equal fairness.

Is this rally really about "equal rights? Because in that case it is superfluous.

Equal rights have been won and now it's about effectively assuming their place in "normal society". It's here where the resistance lies, I'm afraid. Too often "normality" shows its human side, which means diligence, work, social responsibility etc and those things might not appeal to everyone.

So of course, the backlash is that they think there must be something "more" that is missing in their lives ...

BTW - Despite not being religious, I welcome the strong stance the Church of England has taken on keeping "marriage" as a traditional enterprise because heterosexual Christians deserve equal rights too. I hope the Church of Cyprus supports this position.

Same sex civil unions occur in the UK, so it looks like the UK Government couldn't care less what the Church of England believes in this case.

That places the UK streets ahead of the RoC, also Australia for that matter. Nothing will happen in Australia until the current Abbot Administration is replaced because the current Prime Minister is heavily religious and almost became a cleric which is why they nicknamed him as a monk. Hopefully there is a challenge by the socialist wing of the same party which is headed by the way by non other than Alexander Downer (he is the President if the Liberal Party and leader of the Socialist wets) and Republican Malcolm Turnbull (part of Downer's faction) and power broker Christopher Turnbull (also a Downer factionist). Then not only will the legalize same sex civil unions, but Turnbull will start stirring up Australian Nationalistic values and start stirring the women's weekly brigade and bring back the Republican Movement to the forefront of the Liberal Agenda.

[GreekIslandGirl]

It will be a long way until we see a gay marriage like in france .Unless it is enforced from EU like the recent Bail IN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NkA9EYgO2Q

Without the EU legislation homosexuals would still be considered second class people.

Well, from society's point of view, and hence the state's interests, homosexual unions will always be "second class". This is not because we shouldn't accept that some section of humanity is naturally homosexual, but that they do not add to the increase of the population and hence are redundant, biologically speaking.

A society purely composed of homosexual unions would very quickly become extinct, unless a number of artificial means became the *norm*. All possible if I didn't suspect that GAYs would very quickly tire of any responsibility.

But, don't get civil-ceremonies and "marriages" mixed up. Marriages are not always recognised as legal anyway - certainly, if you get married as a Catholic or a Greek Orthodox in the UK, you still have to have a civil ceremony as that is the ONLY one legally recognised. Civil ceremonies are in a sense, more a right of anyone regardless of sex or gender(and many get those two aspects mixed up too) - which of course, homosexual couples deserve as much as anyone else. But changing the face of a religious ceremony like marriage is wrong for many historical (and romantic) reasons. They could of course totally invent a new spiritual-binding contract without forcing Churches to change to suit a minority that might not even BE religious anyway.

The GAY movement has a long way to go before they erase the hypocrisy that surrounds their demands, but I for one support them in their struggle - and would highlight where they themselves are going wrong in their unnecessary and crippling demands. Live and let live - and of course, biologically, GAY men have always been useful as caring "uncles" to help out.

[T_C]

They are equals in every sense, so why should they not have equal rights?

I don't know what you mean by "equal in every sense" because that doesn't apply to any other aspect of life. All anyone can ask for is for their individual needs to be met wih equal fairness.

Is this rally really about "equal rights? Because in that case it is superfluous.

Equal rights have been won and now it's about effectively assuming their place in "normal society". It's here where the resistance lies, I'm afraid. Too often "normality" shows its human side, which means diligence, work, social responsibility etc and those things might not appeal to everyone.

So of course, the backlash is that they think there must be something "more" that is missing in their lives ...

BTW - Despite not being religious, I welcome the strong stance the Church of England has taken on keeping "marriage" as a traditional enterprise because heterosexual Christians deserve equal rights too. I hope the Church of Cyprus supports this position.

I meant equal in terms of family unit. I find it bizarre you see it this way..

I'm no fan of the gay lobby groups, and I agree they can be distasteful, yet your perception of a portion of the gay community should not deny those genuine families of enjoying the same benefits & security, which is what it's about at the end of the day, for them it's not just pantomime and carries more than novelty value.

I used to be ignorant and dead against gay people adopting, until our neighbours adopted twins. It was obvious they hadn't had a good start to life, they were so withdrawn and visibly unhappy..instantly I realised that in this particular instance, away from my negative perception of gay men, they were without a shadow of doubt better off with my neighbours.

The gay community is still adapting and trying to find it's place in the modern world. Get them away from the unhealthy promiscuous lifestyle and encourage them to settle down and build families...which is I'm sure how the governments legalising gay marriage are seeing it.

Things are rapidly changing, the gay community is slowly integrating with the rest of society (openly as gays, and not under false guises) and distancing themselves from the pack mentality of "the scene"...you may not like it but gay rights being forced down peoples throats is making the world a more tolerant place in the long run, and giving gay people the opportunity to fall in line with the rest of society.

[GreekIslandGirl]

They are equals in every sense, so why should they not have equal rights?

I don't know what you mean by "equal in every sense" because that doesn't apply to any other aspect of life. All anyone can ask for is for their individual needs to be met wih equal fairness.

Is this rally really about "equal rights? Because in that case it is superfluous.

Equal rights have been won and now it's about effectively assuming their place in "normal society". It's here where the resistance lies, I'm afraid. Too often "normality" shows its human side, which means diligence, work, social responsibility etc and those things might not appeal to everyone.

So of course, the backlash is that they think there must be something "more" that is missing in their lives ...

BTW - Despite not being religious, I welcome the strong stance the Church of England has taken on keeping "marriage" as a traditional enterprise because heterosexual Christians deserve equal rights too. I hope the Church of Cyprus supports this position.

I meant equal in terms of family unit. I find it bizarre you see it this way..

What's bizarre about my saying they deserve "equal fairness" just like everyone else?

But now you've qualified your point with specifically meaning a "family unit" then I have to ask you what you understand by that term ?

I'm no fan of the gay lobby groups, and I agree they can be distasteful,

I'm sorry you feel they "can be distasteful" and, I must say, I do not agree with your view, nor have I ever expressed such a negative assessment. Distasteful to me is murder, theft etc - and in that respect, I'm sure they are (unfortunately) as prone as any other human beings.

[kurupetos]

Another one comes out of the closet! Who's next? Lordo?

Has GR come out yet ?

No, he lost the key.

[kurupetos]

It's going to be a big circus.
I ve heard kids are gathering fire crackers to throw at the parade and have fun.

I hope they will throw them at the homos.

[kurupetos]

It will be a long way until we see a gay marriage like in france .Unless it is enforced from EU like the recent Bail IN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NkA9EYgO2Q

Without the EU legislation homosexuals would still be considered second class people.

We should arrest every dirty homo. No they are not 2nd class people... they are perverts!