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by **GreekIslandGirl** » Wed May 14, 2014 2:00 pm

Deeply sad to hear about this. So many families affected. Always the poorest and most needy suffer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27408394

My sympathies to all those families involved and many prayers for the safe eviction of all those still missing.

by **Tim Drayton** » Wed May 14, 2014 2:59 pm

I second the sentiments you have expressed.

by **Paphitis** » Wed May 14, 2014 3:19 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Deeply sad to hear about this. So many families affected. Always the poorest and most needy suffer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27408394

My sympathies to all those families involved and many prayers for the safe eviction of all those still missing.

I am unfamiliar with the situation in Turkey.

Not that it matters in the slightest, but usually miners are amongst the wealthiest and highest earning within the workforce. I am talking about huge salaries and benefits.

Very tragic accident. It's very dangerous work being underground.

by **bill cobbett** » Wed May 14, 2014 3:20 pm

Yes absolutely, very, very sad.

by **Kikapu** » Wed May 14, 2014 4:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Deeply sad to hear about this. So many families affected. Always the poorest and most needy suffer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27408394

My sympathies to all those families involved and many prayers for the safe eviction of all those still missing.

I am unfamiliar with the situation in Turkey.

Not that it matters in the slightest, but usually miners are amongst the wealthiest and highest earning within the workforce. I am talking about huge salaries and benefits.

Very tragic accident. It's very dangerous work being underground.

I don't think the same applies to coal miners, especially in a country like Turkey. You may be comparing rich mineral mining sectors in Australia that has no reality to coal miners in poor countries. Turkey had over 90 mining fatalities last year, so this is not so unusual. Just not at this scale in one go. In general, Turkey has a very bad worker's safety record. Too few safety rules because it costs money to make working conditions safe.

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Wed May 14, 2014 5:06 pm

Sadly, it's not looking good for those trapped by the blast.

Apparently,

Erdogan's ruling AKP rejected an opposition call for an inquiry into the safety of Soma's mines only last month.

Protesters over Turkey's poor mining record are being .....fired at with teargas and water cannons .... again! :roll:

Live updates:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... ve-updates

by **Paphitis** » Wed May 14, 2014 5:24 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Deeply sad to hear about this. So many families affected. Always the poorest and most needy suffer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27408394

My sympathies to all those families involved and many prayers for the safe eviction of all those still missing.

I am unfamiliar with the situation in Turkey.

Not that it matters in the slightest, but usually miners are amongst the wealthiest and highest earning within the workforce. I am talking about huge salaries and benefits.

Very tragic accident. It's very dangerous work being underground.

I don't think the same applies to coal miners, especially in a country like Turkey. You may be comparing rich mineral mining sectors in Australia that has no reality to coal miners in poor countries. Turkey had over 90 mining fatalities last year, so this is not so unusual. Just not at this scale in one go. In general, Turkey has a very bad worker's safety record. Too few safety rules because it costs money to make working conditions safe.

I am pretty sure that there were fatalities in the very Rich and very safe Australian Mining and Oil Sectors.

It's pretty dangerous work and workers do go away for 2 weeks at a time. It's usually 2 on and 2 off. Salaries are absolutely ridiculously massive but you need to take into consideration the dangerous work environment and working away on Oil and Gas platforms or in some remote mine somewhere.

Other than that, I would say its a great industry for workers and for career minded people because these big mining and oil companies really do try to look after their workers with every benefit under the sun and are pedantic and meticulous about their safety procedures and controls.

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Thu May 15, 2014 12:18 am

Potentially up to a thousand men (and boys) killed and this is what Erdogan said:

'These things happen'

Pathetic!

by **bill cobbett** » Thu May 15, 2014 1:08 am

Well, whilst there are still 120 people trapped underground tonight, let's just hope and pray that these people are got out alive.

by **MGCN** » Thu May 15, 2014 1:30 am

Now looks like Erdogan is claiming these things just happen!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 71384.html

from the link

Mr Erdogan visited the site at around 1pm today. In a style that has become well-expected from the Turkish leader, he has brushed aside any accusations of wrongdoing and has pointed to similar disasters in countries including the UK as an example that accidents happen.

During a press conference he cited 19th-century Britain — “I went back in British history. Some 204 people died there after a mine collapsed in 1838. In 1866, 369 miners died in Britain. In an explosion in 1984, 290 people died there.”