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[Klik]

Is this a joke? If there's more to come ok.. but it sounds like a joke

[bill cobbett]

Is this a joke? If there's more to come ok.. but it sounds like a joke

Errr ...wouldn't be surprised if it's the biggest award the ECHR has ever made and prob by a long way.

[Klik]

And Turkey is not really bound by this agreement, as usual.

Can someone explain why there's a Turkish citizen in the grand chamber? Isn't that unethical?

[Maximus]

It might be the biggest pay-out the ECHR has awarded but tally it up between 2000 missing persons and the enclaved.

its about 45,000 euros each, for the loss of loved ones, 40 years of non-closure and living under an occupation.

Its not the $1m Erdogan is demanding in compensation from Israel for each of the dead resulting from "operational errors" raiding the Mavi Marmara.

[Flying Horse]

I have a feeling this is only the beginning.

I didn't expect to be reading this, and I'm taken aback.

[bill cobbett]

No, cert didn't expect to be seeing it on the ABC News news-site, which confirms that it is the biggest ever pay-out awarded by the ECHR...

"... Europe's top human rights court in its largest ever judgment ordered Turkey on Monday to pay 90 million euros ($123 million) to Cyprus for its 1974 invasion and the island's subsequent division.

The decision from the European Court of Human Rights said the passage of time did not erase Turkey's responsibility in the case, ruling that Turkey must pay 30 million euros in damages to relatives of those missing in the operations and 60 million euros for "the enclaved Greek-Cypriot residents of the Karpas peninsula.... "

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... n-23679654

[bill cobbett]

Even the Beeb reprints a few details...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27380388

[Demonax]

Here is a link to the full judgement:

http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng/pag ... 001-144151

[Demonax]

Here is the part dealing with the expropriation of Greek Cypriot property in the occupied areas:

23. The Court had to intervene for the sake of legal certainty and to safeguard its own authority. The Court, and only the Court, has the last word about the interpretation of its Demopoulos decision, hence settling this dispute in a manner that lessens the likelihood of future conflicts between the parties while upholding the rule of law and ensuring full execution of the judgment on the merits in Cyprus v. Turkey. The Court’s answer to the claimant State’s request is crystal clear: the Court did not decide in Demopoulos that Turkey’s obligations under Article 46 to execute the Grand Chamber judgment of 2001 had been fulfilled, nor did the Court hold that the ongoing violations found by the Grand Chamber in its judgment on the merits had come to an end by virtue of the enactment of Law 67/2005, and this for the simple, but obvious, reason that Demopoulos was concerned only with domestic remedies in respect of violations of Article 1 of Protocol No. 1 in individual cases. To put it unambiguously, the Demopoulos decision did not interfere with the claimant State’s right to full implementation of the Grand Chamber judgment of 2001, including the immediate cessation of the continuing unlawful disposal (including sale, lease, use or any other means of exploitation) of the land and property of Greek Cypriots in Northern Cyprus by the “TNRC” authorities with the complicity of the Turkish State. This is not a mere statement on the interpretation of a previous judgment of the Court. The Court’s intention goes much further. This is also an acknowledgment of the existence of a situation of non-implementation of the Grand Chamber’s judgment of 2001, and therefore of a violation by the respondent State of its obligations under Article 46 of the Convention, to which the Court seeks to put an end.

[repulsewarrior]

...good news for families with missing, another reason to demand clarity, especially where those concerned were in the hands of the Turkish Army.

obviously, this Government (now in its second decade) is not prepared to pay this debt, Cyprus, is to be paid, and once again blame has been placed, on Turkey. it is the State they tarnish (again), this leadership, by the Ignorance of their denial(s), for "Turkishness" they say

...a small pittance for Turkey, i hope it is paid. (what with the amounts we see, allegedly, paid-out, as corruption), a big step forward in any case. toward reform.