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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby Lordo » Thu May 21, 2015 5:31 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Lordo wrote:you are so stupid. these people will end up in prison because of people like you. she announced the other day. if you are visiting the court on the day of the hearing please do not bring any flags. and here you are posting her in flags. i am sure the prosecutor will soften his stance once he sees your post. you stupid stupid stupid charlui.


...they will end up in prison anyway, since this "court" is not for Justice, "it" will get its way in any case.

by some peoples effort to politicise it the court will have no alternative but to make examples out of them. if people left them along there would be no problem at all. the charge has never been one of flag waving but disturbing the peace. if their supporters gather to support then it turns into disturbing the peace. in our trnc gathering without permission is against the law. i always said the problem is non-recognition. if trnc was recognised we would not have half these problems. the blame lies on the roc.
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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby bill cobbett » Fri May 22, 2015 12:55 am

The ugliest of ugly scenes outside the kangaroo court of "trtc" (or whatever it's called) as Cousin Dafto's friends, the fanatical and very extreme Turkish Nationalist Grey Sheep, rush the CY couple.

Massive courage from Cinel and Koray, undeterred by the attack.

Here's a vid of the attack from CyBC ...

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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby bill cobbett » Fri May 22, 2015 1:03 am

From our old friend grokked a few sound bites from the video above by the Exceptionally Brave CY Couple...

"... Comments spoken in English by Koray Basdogrultmaci are available at 06:14 minutes of this video item.

"And Famagusta is the part of Cyprus, part of the Republic of Cyprus. There is no other state in this Cyprus. In this state there is no other state. Because on either side, in 1960 ... this is reality. Where is the EU ... where is the US ?"

Comment by Cinel Senem Husseyin:

"Where are the Human Rights" ?

Comment by Koray:

" ... and the whole Cyprus is the land of the European Union. They are guilty as well because they don't support this decision, they don't support this land". ..."
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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 22, 2015 1:09 am

...exactly, "if people left them alone". But, the word of a "Turk" must mean more than those not "Turkish" enough, why else delay and delay, and hope that somehow this man, and his wife, will bend "their" way.

Why have this couple been given this consideration, which is in fact, Justice denied? Why apologise for a Prosecutor that is surely incompetent, why apologise for a Judge that seems helpless, to say, enough.

Lordo if we were to listen to you, nothing would get done, things would stay the same, it is always the advice you give, do nothing, "be" helpless. Worse you expect those not "Turkish" to recognise this regime as a legitimate representative of its electorates' will, as though "they" count to anyone, but the deeper state which drives what is an illegal occupation. Why not tell the complainants that they should consider themselves lucky to have free expression, and the right to fly their "own" flag, not the "Greek" flag, ("they" have one,) a "Turkish" flag rather than the Flag of Cyprus, the one for those who stand for Universal Rights, the Rights of Human beings. Why not at least Justice seen, some egg on a Judiciary's face that is a little too political, instead of this charade.

...frankly i am waiting for the real news, what went on inside those walls today?

...(and when is the next episode, (since those supposedly in charge just don't get it), without a dismissal at this point, it is more a farce, a serious failure, it is the System of Justice itself, which is on trial.)
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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby bill cobbett » Fri May 22, 2015 1:19 am

You need wait no longer RW, but you'll have to wait for Hell to freeze over before our Cousin Shesso does the right thing and condemns "trnc"...

"... A first-hand account of the scenes from Occupied Famagusta earlier today from a virtual friend, a massive, massive supporter of the CY couple...

An account that includes reports of injury caused to Cinel by the Grey Sheep that Cousin Vordo so admires, reports of knives, a car driven at the CY Couple's supporters and of great fear and trauma.

Koray and Cinel - living their nightmare and reality
by Tina Adamidou

Thursday 21st May 2015, 1.45pm. Famagusta court in the occupied areas. I do not usually use his term when writing about the north of our island but after what I witnessed today it is something more than occupied.

The Turkish speaking Cypriot couple Cinel and Koray were to appear today at 2pm at the court whereby it was rumoured that their trial would actually officially begin. It had been agreed by the 50 or so supporters of the couple who had come to show support that only one lone Cypriot flag would be raised outside the court after the hearing today had finished.

Upon arrival I wasn't surprised to see several Turkish flags unfurled together with a single military size TRNC flag. Checking their faces and asking the Cypriotturkish friends who were with us, the protestors were not Cypriotturks bar one who happened to be a convicted murdered but members of the notorious Grey Wolves. Before we even entered the court more protestors gathered, chants began. Undeterred Koray and Cinel entered the court together with their supporters, the Grey Wolves on their best behaviour.

Once inside the small courtroom, the few spectators - from both sides - with the couple's solicitor visible absent, the Prosecutor asked that the hearing be postponed till 4pm as he had another case pending. This meant that for another 2 hours all the supporters and protestors would have to wait. It was then that a menacing feeling was felt.

As we exited the court, more protestors gathered and were now equal in number to the supporters and there were police trying to keep both parties apart. More Turkish flags were raised and the Grey Wolves came closer to the supporters with the police not really sensing the danger that was imminent.

As Koray's supporters crossed to the other side of the road, the Cypriot flag was raised causing an uproar amongst the protestors. Scuffles between the police and the protestors erupted and a few of the protestors managed to get through and attacked Koray, Cinel and her mother who were lightly injured.

Bearing witness to the look of pure hatred and lust for murder apparent on these young mens faces shook me to the core. Never before in my life have I seen this look, and it will haunt me forever. Now a lot of questions that I had asked in the past were answered. Why were there not more Cypriotturkish supporters at the court - in one simple answer, they are scared. I am not afraid to admit, I froze, I was petrified, not just for my safety but for those of all of us there, but more than that for Koray and Cinel.....

One of the supporters clearly shaken told us that she had spotted two of the Grey Wolves holding knives and had even seen them taken into the courtroom with them.

Their chants were getting louder, it was one of the most frightening moments of my life, the uncertainty, the fear. A Bentley had arrived earlier unleasing 5-6 bravos hellbent on causing troubles. The driver then got back into the car and drove into the crowded area where the supporters were stationed at a high speed and swerved to run over Cinel and a few of us who were near her.

For nearly two hours the two opposing parties were kept apart and more police were drafted in. The protestors shouting 'Cyprus is Turkish and always will be' whilst the supporters held their silent protest and not allowing the provacations to get to them.

With an armed police escort , hand in hand we were taken into the courtroom upstairs this time which could hold more people. Everybody was searched before being allowed in.

The Prosecution began with 3 different videos being shown of the arrest, one had been posted on youtube, the second was filmed by the police and the third was between Koray and Sener Levent of Afrika newspaper telling him what had happened.

Nearly 6pm and the judge wrapped up with the first witness for the Prosecution, one of the policeman who had arrested Koray and Cinel.

She said that the case will continue tomorrow at 10am and stressed that she wanted this case to finish in 3 days, meaning that by Monday it should all be over.

By the time we came out of the court, the protestors had more or less left. Which leaves many questions. Exactly how safe are the couple now that their supporters have gone to their respective homes? They have been receiving threats and anonymous phone calls.....their lives are really at risk.

I have been to many demonstrations in my life but none had put the fear of God through me like todays.

Tomorrow most of their supporters will find it difficult to attend the court hearing in the morning, which leaves us wondering, what will happen to this brave couple in the jaws of the Grey Wolves....we must spread the word, we have to protect them otherwise in my personal opinion we are leaving them clearly in the hands of the people who had blood on their hands from the unforgettable murder of Tassos Issac....who concidentally is the inspiration behind Koray' s questioning of the authorities in the occupied areas.

May God help them..... ..."
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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby Lordo » Fri May 22, 2015 1:32 am

koray asked a very interesting question. where is the eu was the question. perhaps you can attend the hearing tomorrow and expalin to him who decided that the north was not going to join the eu and which charloassholes and elambuis here supported the decision of the said assleader.
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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby bill cobbett » Fri May 22, 2015 1:44 am

Video posted on FB by a CY News Agency in the Occupied Areas, showing the ugly scenes and scuffles from the Green Sheep, including the CY Couple's supporters defending them non-violently when they are attacked by Lordo's friends, the Grey Goats...

(This one ain't for the sensitive)

https://www.facebook.com/magusahaberaja ... =1&theater
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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby bill cobbett » Fri May 22, 2015 1:55 am

People being attacked, Grey Wolves seen with knives, a car driven at supporters, chilling scenes, people traumatised and the following is the headline from the CY Snail...

"... Turkish Cypriot ‘flag couple’ heckled by ‘Grey Wolves’ ..."

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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 22, 2015 2:45 am

...in essence bill, it was fair, let's not exaggerate because we know how far extremists go, for their flags.

Honestly, i'm glad they covered it, (couldn't find it until you stated it was there, being a "feature",) but they are most certainly not making it a banner piece (not found under the heading, "Cyprus"); funny eh?
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Re: Arrested For Flying Flags of the Republic

Postby Lordo » Fri May 22, 2015 10:24 am

the question has not answered though. koray wants to know where is the eu in all this, will somebody answer.

of course doubly relevant because we are being told by most here that we dont need terggish guarantee as eu can guarantee us.

so where is the eu.
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