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[Maximus]

“This incidence has fully exposed the policies of this separatist structure, which was established by Turkey and their local collaborators through the violation of the international law and was designed to force Turkish Cypriots to flee from the Island".

En angouri.
This incidence has done the complete opposite.

The RoC flag is the most abhorred thing for 'Turkey and their local collaborators'
It's a symbol of Cypriot unity and harmony. The Turks don't even recognize it for f sakes.
When you've carved an illegal foreign entity in the north, it's the last thing you wanna see, let alone promote.

Yes it is and Greek one too, but is raising it a phenomenon amongst the average TC in the occupied areas or are these types of incidents too far a too few between?
Yes it is and I know
Yes, its true.

But, when you say this incidence has done the complete opposite do you mean that TC's in the occupied areas who hoist the RoC flag are bringing the TC's back to the occupied areas? because there are only about 3000 in the Republic areas.

Do you think that this couple will flee to the free areas of the republic too?

[B25]

“This incidence has fully exposed the policies of this separatist structure, which was established by Turkey and their local collaborators through the violation of the international law and was designed to force Turkish Cypriots to flee from the Island".

En angouri.
This incidence has done the complete opposite.

The RoC flag is the most abhorred thing for 'Turkey and their local collaborators'
It's a symbol of Cypriot unity and harmony. The Turks don't even recognize it for f sakes.
When you've carved an illegal foreign entity in the north, it's the last thing you wanna see, let alone promote.

Potatoes potatos, same thing you have just confirmed and agreed to what max said above.

The trouble with GC is they are stupid enough to argue with other GCs over the turds, but you never get two TCs doing that.

And that my dear Watson is why we will never have a solution on this island, because sime here just like tye turkish cock too much.

[repulsewarrior]

...a Turkish Cypriot designed the Flag, it's no coincidence, a Turkish Cypriot flies it higher, this couple have done more than the so-called Leadership in Cyprus, to force the conversation on what it means, to be Cypriot (rather than a "Turk"), rather than Greek (that is to say the vast majority of this island's population). i suggest that Greeks can form a Constituency themselves, to sustain Greekness, (and to add value to their credibility as a State,) that as a Republic, within it, Constituencies can exist.

...as a Modern person, as an Individual who stands for themselves first, neither the Greek Flag, or a Flag Turkish, can replace the value in having the Cypriot Flag to fly higher.

...i would like to see many Constituencies, frankly, BBF, a Unitary State being one Federation where within, Persons have a means for self-representation (and self-expression), because they, these distinct identities, are an important part of sustaining our ethnosphere, i like the idea that Maronites, Armenians, Latins, as well as Turks, live among the Greek population as minorities, and yet close-by, there will be a Constituency where Greeks live as a minority, too. lol, some cities are identified as being Cosmopolitan, how about in Cyprus where it would be the people themselves?

[Maximus]

let them fly it RW,

what do you think they are saying to the illegal regime when they do? their sticking there middle finger up at it of sorts.

What I am asking is whether they will turn to the GC's afterwards and demand those 'rights' in the 1960's constitution but in BBF format.

[Cap]

True story.
I know a British couple who decided to buy property and settle in Cyprus.
Like most, knew f all about CY history. They knew about a division, but that's about all.
So they checked out both the legitimate controlled RoC and the occupied north.

Their conclusions, not mine:

Their stay in the N was lengthy so they got to meet the local people.
Occupied north they said, absolutely dirt cheap. Huge 4 bedroom houses for next to nothing and just about everything else.
They enquired about who's land it was, and if it was legal and they were given conflicting answers.
They were told things like outgoing mail is controlled by the occupying Turks.
They realized nearly everything on sale was from Turkey and that international shops like Marks and Spencer etc were unavailable.
They said the it was beautiful, but the infrastructure was severely lacking.
They told me, after talking to alot of T Cypriots, they realized TC's hate Turks more than GC's and it blew their mind how few GC's actually knew this, and how reluctant they were to accept it.
TC's call the Turks 'New Cypriots'

They opted for the free areas and eventually settled here.

Anyway...

The glorious Roc flag raised in front of the Famagusta 'court'.

[Maximus]

Good and may they keep flying it.

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed cap, of course i can only keep in touch with my family from a long distance, some, as attached to the village as i was (read: am), still communicate with neighbours, it is as you say, the speak in hushed tone so as not to be heard, and they do not find reasons for social-exchange with the settlers. as an "us", we are all waiting for things to return to a normal state.

[repulsewarrior]

let them fly it RW,

what do you think they are saying to the illegal regime when they do? their sticking there middle finger up at it of sorts.

What I am asking is whether they will turn to the GC's afterwards and demand those 'rights' in the 1960's constitution but in BBF format.

...Cypriots are asking for the same thing, respect and recognition. Turkish Cypriots are demanding something new, in that sense something different to a Society where because one is Greek, the ability to succeed is better, simply because the vast majority of the population is Greek. 'virgin birth' comes to mind, but more elegant than a new Republic, the Republic exists (although it is in need of reform), it is what's missing, a Greek Constituency, so that Cyprus, the Republic, is Free to represent us (not as Greeks, not as Turks) but as the Citizens of this State. since a Turkish Constituency has established a desire as Persons, the Liberty as Persons Greeks seek to sustain, we remain without any real representation as Cypriots. if you believe vp, or kurupetos, for example, as an Individual, you come second to the Persons they compare themselves' to. they could as Persons have a forum to express themselves in this way, but resist the changes as Individuals they must make within themselves, in that sense, anyone who flies a Cypriot Flag is giving a finger to someone who prefers to fly "their" flag at the exclusion of others. and of course, those unwilling to fly the Cypriot Flag higher, will become more exposed, if this issue of flying flags becomes more popular.

yes, Maximus, like all Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots want something better, in a State where Universal Principals are Cypriot values. it means new thinking, where Nations also can sustain themselves as People, but it certainly does not mean keeping things the way they are.

[Flying Horse]

One small stone, it took to bring down Goliath.

Can two insignificant people bring a change in the tide?

I'd like to hope so.

[Maximus]

One small stone, it took to bring down Goliath.

Can two insignificant people bring a change in the tide?

I'd like to hope so.

And you can chop down an oak tree with a pen knife if you keep hitting the same spot for long enough.