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[Get Real!]

He should team up with Matsakis and open a flag shop.

[repulsewarrior]

...who would have guessed that the Prosecution could come up with such a tactic.

The threat made clear, for flying the Flag of Cyprus, not just this couple but any Individual who must appear in this chamber for it, sedition.

It is a good day for us, those not "Turkish", if you ask me, although the pain and suffering for these two people is more, they remain resolute with their conviction despite the threats; this case could have been dismissed (again). That flags, and this flag are an extension of an Individual's free expression of their identity, that there is no Law against flying this flag, that Cyprus as an identity is not one of an an enemy in any case, could have been simply stated, as facts; the complaint denied. It is clear, that this is not the case. The Prosecution was unprepared originally, and they are not prepared today, to defend their original charges. The "trial" begins, with "new" and more serious charges. After the years, and the many delays, Justice seen is not served, a "they" somewhere can't do that, and by this i don't know what to call it, "Court", their Judge(s), did (do) not have the courage to do the right thing, they (and "they") seem to be an impotent lot when it comes to defending the very principals of the Rule of Law. (aside from this case's political implications) Justice delayed, Justice denied, comes to mind...

Koray Basdogrultmaci and Cinel Senem Husseyin, are Cypriots, who can doubt that? What is wrong with that? Now, for that, they stand as Criminals, traitors of a (so-called by these authorities) "State".

And if the government feels so strongly, for the next time then, because there surely will be a next time, they can organise their case better, by making Law a Judge can base their Judgments upon. This one is really up to Akinci therefore, since the credibility of his authority is at stake. If he does nothing, and this case continues, then he is aiding and abetting something in his bureaucracy that seems to be out of control. If he is forced to act, if he cannot have the case dropped (immediately), it will require that he be firm, for Cyprus, (or not), to be seen as having a new intention, (or the same intention, with laws that are even more restrictive, at least specific) he will have to make clear that this kind of "influence", on the part of the Prosecution is not part of the way Cypriots intent to act, (or, it is the way that he and his regime sees fit to continue to act), but with legislation that says so.

...being for Cyprus, a thought crime. eh?

[Lordo]

rw you are jumping ahead of yourself. a president has never interfered with the course of the law, I do not think he has such powers and a president should not have such powers, otherwise the justice system would be poorer for it in the future. he does have one power which is to pardon them as soon as they are sentenced. they went on gc tv and said a lot about the trnc. naturally the authorities will use all that against them.

i get the feeling some rejectionists are stoking up the fires to delay the talks till anastasiades comes up for elections hoping he loses.

[CBBB]

rw you are jumping ahead of yourself. a president has never interfered with the course of the law, I do not think he has such powers and a president should not have such powers, otherwise the justice system would be poorer for it in the future. he does have one power which is to pardon them as soon as they are sentenced. they went on gc tv and said a lot about the trnc. naturally the authorities will use all that against them.

i get the feeling some rejectionists are stoking up the fires to delay the talks till anastasiades comes up for elections hoping he loses.

No delays, referenda in December this year.

[Lordo]

march next year is what was promised. final agreement by december is what is hoped for.

[Paphitis]

march next year is what was promised. final agreement by december is what is hoped for.

What is hoped for. But no one is going to force us into anything.

[B25]

...who would have guessed that the Prosecution could come up with such a tactic.

The threat made clear, for flying the Flag of Cyprus, not just this couple but any Individual who must appear in this chamber for it, sedition.

It is a good day for us, those not "Turkish", if you ask me, although the pain and suffering for these two people is more, they remain resolute with their conviction despite the threats; this case could have been dismissed (again). That flags, and this flag are an extension of an Individual's free expression of their identity, that there is no Law against flying this flag, that Cyprus as an identity is not one of an an enemy in any case, could have been simply stated, as facts; the complaint denied. It is clear, that this is not the case. The Prosecution was unprepared originally, and they are not prepared today, to defend their original charges. The "trial" begins, with "new" and more serious charges. After the years, and the many delays, Justice seen is not served, a "they" somewhere can't do that, and by this i don't know what to call it, "Court", their Judge(s), did (do) not have the courage to do the right thing, they (and "they") seem to be an impotent lot when it comes to defending the very principals of the Rule of Law. (aside from this case's political implications) Justice delayed, Justice denied, comes to mind...

Koray Basdogrultmaci and Cinel Senem Husseyin, are Cypriots, who can doubt that? What is wrong with that? Now, for that, they stand as Criminals, traitors of a (so-called by these authorities) "State".

And if the government feels so strongly, for the next time then, because there surely will be a next time, they can organise their case better, by making Law a Judge can base their Judgments upon. This one is really up to Akinci therefore, since the credibility of his authority is at stake. If he does nothing, and this case continues, then he is aiding and abetting something in his bureaucracy that seems to be out of control. If he is forced to act, if he cannot have the case dropped (immediately), it will require that he be firm, for Cyprus, (or not), to be seen as having a new intention, (or the same intention, with laws that are even more restrictive, at least specific) he will have to make clear that this kind of "influence", on the part of the Prosecution is not part of the way Cypriots intent to act, (or, it is the way that he and his regime sees fit to continue to act), but with legislation that says so.

...being for Cyprus, a thought crime. eh?

RW, have you read about the new charge against them???
This sends to me, and I am sure many others that the TCs are false in their desire for a solution. For none of them have come out in support of the two. They support fully the actions of the occupation regime.

Unless there are major changes to what has already been discussed, they will be getting a big NO from me, mine and many others I will make it my business to convince otherwise.

[Lordo]

...who would have guessed that the Prosecution could come up with such a tactic.

The threat made clear, for flying the Flag of Cyprus, not just this couple but any Individual who must appear in this chamber for it, sedition.

It is a good day for us, those not "Turkish", if you ask me, although the pain and suffering for these two people is more, they remain resolute with their conviction despite the threats; this case could have been dismissed (again). That flags, and this flag are an extension of an Individual's free expression of their identity, that there is no Law against flying this flag, that Cyprus as an identity is not one of an an enemy in any case, could have been simply stated, as facts; the complaint denied. It is clear, that this is not the case. The Prosecution was unprepared originally, and they are not prepared today, to defend their original charges. The "trial" begins, with "new" and more serious charges. After the years, and the many delays, Justice seen is not served, a "they" somewhere can't do that, and by this i don't know what to call it, "Court", their Judge(s), did (do) not have the courage to do the right thing, they (and "they") seem to be an impotent lot when it comes to defending the very principals of the Rule of Law. (aside from this case's political implications) Justice delayed, Justice denied, comes to mind...

Koray Basdogrultmaci and Cinel Senem Husseyin, are Cypriots, who can doubt that? What is wrong with that? Now, for that, they stand as Criminals, traitors of a (so-called by these authorities) "State".

And if the government feels so strongly, for the next time then, because there surely will be a next time, they can organise their case better, by making Law a Judge can base their Judgments upon. This one is really up to Akinci therefore, since the credibility of his authority is at stake. If he does nothing, and this case continues, then he is aiding and abetting something in his bureaucracy that seems to be out of control. If he is forced to act, if he cannot have the case dropped (immediately), it will require that he be firm, for Cyprus, (or not), to be seen as having a new intention, (or the same intention, with laws that are even more restrictive, at least specific) he will have to make clear that this kind of "influence", on the part of the Prosecution is not part of the way Cypriots intent to act, (or, it is the way that he and his regime sees fit to continue to act), but with legislation that says so.

...being for Cyprus, a thought crime. eh?

RW, have you read about the new charge against them???
This sends to me, and I am sure many others that the TCs are false in their desire for a solution. For none of them have come out in support of the two. They support fully the actions of the occupation regime.

Unless there are major changes to what has already been discussed, they will be getting a big NO from me, mine and many others I will make it my business to convince otherwise.

dream on boy

[Oceanside50]

The pseudo courts in occupied Cyprus will never allow this case to be heard. Their laws are not relevant and therefore can't be enforced. This couple is saying they don't recognize the pseudo state and can't be held accountable for breaking their laws.. As a mater of fact in the ECHR case pertaining to louizidou the pseudo representative admitted that the pseudo state was not legitimate

[Lordo]

its funny how the gc media stopped using the word pseudo for akinci's election. i wonder why. do i detect a sea change in the gc media. have they realised the time is up. not long left now we shall find out one way or the other.