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[Get Real!]

What valid rights and none sense peppered with contradiction are you talking about now? why didn't the Ottomans in Cyprus react the same way and demand Taksim when the British arrived?

Look I get it. I understand that you believe GC had and have a right to demand the end of foreign rule in their own homeland and that TC did not and do not. I understand you believe that GC have such rights and TC do not. Just as I understand that it is this very belief that is at the root of the Cyprus problem historically and today.

YOU are the foreign rule. YOU came to our island to oppress US. You can't argue against FACTS. When we were fighting against the British for the freedom of Cyprus, you, instead of accepting that Cyprus can finally be free, decided that the rule of either the whole Cyprus or at least half of it should pass to the previous foreign rulers... the Turks!! And don't tell me that you would have preferred Independence because you DID NOT. At no point in history the Turks wanted an independent Cyprus... for 3 centuries when they ruled Cyprus they had all the power to give Cyprus its independence and they didn't. And during British rule the Turks never talked about independence... it was a GC proposal and the Turks did all they could to have this independence crippled. And you know why? Because enosis or a true independence is the exact same for the Turks because in both cases who rules Cyprus are the native Greek people and as we said already native rule is a foreign rule for the foreign Turks.

You are both foreign fools pointing at each other and in the process making total dorks of yourselves!

Had either of you been Cypriot you wouldn’t have accepted anything less!

A Cypriot nationalist cannot and will not tolerate anything less, anymore than a Turkish nationalist accepts anything less than Turkish, or a Greek nationalist accepts anything less than Greek!

Do you understand this simple premise, you jelly-brained mosquito?

[Get Real!]

Sotos, in a nutshell you’re a foreigner trying to convince another foreigner that you’re a “better” foreigner for Cyprus!

Look at it this way:

If it were possible to empty and then repopulate Cyprus with 1 million people having the mindset of either:

1. Sotos
2. Erol
3. GR

Which scenario would be better for Cyprus and Cypriotness?

If you populate it with 1 million Sotos’ Cyprus will always be a part of Greece bringing death to Cypriotness!

If you populate it with 1 million Erol’s Cyprus will always be a part of Turkey bringing death to Cypriotness!

And if you fill it up with 1 million GR’s Cyprus will always be CYPRUS and a big finger goes up in Greece and Turkey’s face!

So as you can see (or maybe not because you’re not exactly the most colorful crayon on this forum) with simple examples like this you can see that you’re BOTH BAD for Cyprus because you’re both mostly foreigners serving foreign countries!

Comprende?

[repulsewarrior]

...thus my question, does Cyprus come first? in Cyprus even if there are many flags, wouldn't you agree, the Cypriot Flag flies higher.

[Sotos]

I am as native Cypriot as one can be. Both parents, all grandparents etc are Cypriots and I am born and raised in Cyprus. This can not be said for either GR or erolz. Erolz is a foreigner from the get go while whatever native Cypriot (i.e. Greek) GR had was lost while he was raised in Australia

[Viewpoint]

I am as native Cypriot as one can be. Both parents, all grandparents etc are Cypriots and I am born and raised in Cyprus. This can not be said for either GR or erolz. Erolz is a foreigner from the get go while whatever native Cypriot (i.e. Greek) GR had was lost while he was raised in Australia

Why does that give you any more rights than us TCs? my heritage is from Cyprus as well so people like you can just go watch the flag on the mountains in the North from a distance and try and understand that for whatever reasons on which we will never agree 1974 changed Cyprus forever, it will never be a Greek island, its finished over finito bitti περατώ endaxi get it, its either a BBF or the current division.

[Sotos]

I am as native Cypriot as one can be. Both parents, all grandparents etc are Cypriots and I am born and raised in Cyprus. This can not be said for either GR or erolz. Erolz is a foreigner from the get go while whatever native Cypriot (i.e. Greek) GR had was lost while he was raised in Australia

Why does that give you any more rights than us TCs? my heritage is from Cyprus as well so people like you can just go watch the flag on the mountains in the North from a distance and try and understand that for whatever reasons on which we will never agree 1974 changed Cyprus forever, it will never be a Greek island, its finished over finito bitti περατώ endaxi get it, its either a BBF or the current division.

You wish. You are an invader like any other. Your time in Cyprus has an expiration date.

[Viewpoint]

I am as native Cypriot as one can be. Both parents, all grandparents etc are Cypriots and I am born and raised in Cyprus. This can not be said for either GR or erolz. Erolz is a foreigner from the get go while whatever native Cypriot (i.e. Greek) GR had was lost while he was raised in Australia

Why does that give you any more rights than us TCs? my heritage is from Cyprus as well so people like you can just go watch the flag on the mountains in the North from a distance and try and understand that for whatever reasons on which we will never agree 1974 changed Cyprus forever, it will never be a Greek island, its finished over finito bitti περατώ endaxi get it, its either a BBF or the current division.

You wish. You are an invader like any other. Your time in Cyprus has an expiration date.

Ho please you are no longer in 1963, no one takes you seriously you are not only outdated but also sound like a moron.

[Get Real!]

I am as native Cypriot as one can be. Both parents, all grandparents etc are Cypriots and I am born and raised in Cyprus.

Ok, so you’re biologically Cypriot but mentally challenged... I really don’t know how else to describe your situation!

GR had was lost while he was raised in Australia

Hello? I went to Australia in 1987 when I was 22!

[GreekIslandGirl]

I really do understand why you are all so surprised at this ? Taksim was an inevitable reaction to enosis ? Without enosis there could have been no way to achieve taksim even if the desire for it amongst TC was the same (and without enosis it would not have been).

Delusional attempt to twist historical events. Taksim was a remnant reaction from, and because of, Ottoman rule. A final attempt to re-enslave the island after the Turks lost it to the British. The few remaining Ottoman Turks that stayed on the island after Britain told them to return to Turkey in the 1920s did so knowing it is a Greek island since the British were underway with their initial (later, false) promises to restore the island to Greece.

[Viewpoint]

I really do understand why you are all so surprised at this ? Taksim was an inevitable reaction to enosis ? Without enosis there could have been no way to achieve taksim even if the desire for it amongst TC was the same (and without enosis it would not have been).

Delusional attempt to twist historical events. Taksim was a remnant reaction from, and because of, Ottoman rule. A final attempt to re-enslave the island after the Turks lost it to the British. The few remaining Ottoman Turks that stayed on the island after Britain told them to return to Turkey in the 1920s did so knowing it is a Greek island since the British were underway with their initial (later, false) promises to restore the island to Greece.

Well thank god that didnt pan out then or you would be part of Greece now and we would have been wiped out.