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[Viewpoint]

Today vp were talking about today and for that matter the last 10 years,you keep talking about the 1960 and 1970,the 20 million crossings is everyday things like work and seeing docters.its not to go sip wine in tavernas.erolz wrote a very good piece about guranttees in the eroglu thread.i knew tc won't go for it.

You may want to erase your past actions but shouldnt we learn from them and take measures to ensure it is not repeated? I still believe that the TA and clear division are deciding factors to why both sides behave when they venture accross the border.

Erols piece about guarantees was very interesting I dont think GCs would accept it as they cannot trust themselves to do the right thing.

[boulio]

Today vp were talking about today and for that matter the last 10 years,you keep talking about the 1960 and 1970,the 20 million crossings is everyday things like work and seeing docters.its not to go sip wine in tavernas.erolz wrote a very good piece about guranttees in the eroglu thread.i knew tc won't go for it.

You may want to erase your past actions but shouldnt we learn from them and take measures to ensure it is not repeated? I still believe that the TA and clear division are deciding factors to why both sides behave when they venture accross the border.

Erols piece about guarantees was very interesting I dont think GCs would accept it as they cannot trust themselves to do the right thing.

You keep talking about the past ,let's get a timeline going

Eoka was formed in 1955 but as we see with footnotes and all your lot had other plans a lot earlier

http://seka.org.au/turkey-cyprus_issue.htm

I think gc would except Erolz security plan ,would you?

[Lordo]

really boulio our lot had plans a lot earlier. and your lot only started thinking about enosis in 1955. you must be joking.

we have no hope of sharing this island with you boys as you will always be in denial.

take your section and do as you wish.

[Viewpoint]

Today vp were talking about today and for that matter the last 10 years,you keep talking about the 1960 and 1970,the 20 million crossings is everyday things like work and seeing docters.its not to go sip wine in tavernas.erolz wrote a very good piece about guranttees in the eroglu thread.i knew tc won't go for it.

You may want to erase your past actions but shouldnt we learn from them and take measures to ensure it is not repeated? I still believe that the TA and clear division are deciding factors to why both sides behave when they venture accross the border.

Erols piece about guarantees was very interesting I dont think GCs would accept it as they cannot trust themselves to do the right thing.

You keep talking about the past ,let's get a timeline going

Eoka was formed in 1955 but as we see with footnotes and all your lot had other plans a lot earlier

http://seka.org.au/turkey-cyprus_issue.htm

I think gc would except Erolz security plan ,would you?

I would accept it.

[boulio]

That's great,now what about the tc efforts pre eoka for separation or did you ignore that part?

[Oceanside50]

VP honestly your mindset is amazing,run riot around the island?the vast majority(9.9 out of 10) of people in the south vp just want to get on with there lives and live in peace within the EU and enjoy there kids and grandkids.Try to get out of the econiomic mess that the govt got them.You skeak of keeping the south in check?what is turkey the police man of cyprus vp really ,do you ever read what you write?This is why people on the forum tell you to fuck off back to turkey,and then theres erolz who i respect his input claim that there are fanatic gc on this forum what about the fanatic tc ?

What so fanatical about stating you were previously (pre 1974) running riot all over the island, the period up until the 1974 was not avery peaceful one, after 1974 we have lived peacefully side by side for 40 years, you cannot deny this fact. We also want to live peacefully bring up our children and grandchildren but without safeguards to everyone in check like the TA would only take us back to pre 1974, so please understand we do not want this and will never accept such a move, this would be a bad move for everyone.

20 million visitors to South Cyprus on an average of 150euros a pop mounts up to 3 billion Euros, not bad me thinks. And we all know that GCs spend the minimum when they visit North Cyprus so who benefits is obvious.

Uphold the rule of law. Respect the institutions that delegate civil rights. I disagree that the TA has kept any sort of peace. There have been numerous incidents. Cyprus is per square mile one of the most heavily militarized zones in the world. Billions and billions have been spent on armaments. The perception on Cyprus by Cypriots has been that of war. Where do you see peace? ...is it because bullets aren't flying around every day? During the Cold War not one bullet was fired among the USA and ussr, but the trillions spent on war machines is incalculable to the effects on society..who knows the internet may have been in use in the 1950's instead of 1989.

[boulio]

Nice post ocean couldn't agree more.

[Lordo]

lets see if you agree with this than boulio

all i see at the moment is missiles and tanks and helicopters being bought by the gc national guard. i see nothing being bought by the tc national guard.

i also see 80,000 gc reservists fully armed with their g3 rifles and 505 bullets each. i see no tcs reservists being armed and bullets under their beds.

you boys really have to wake up sooner or later ffs.

[Viewpoint]

That's great,now what about the tc efforts pre eoka for separation or did you ignore that part?

No such thing, enosis = eokas = taksim, taksim was born out of fear and need to counter the fact that you guys did not an independent Cyprus but wanted to scrap it and gift our island to Greece, isnt it time you just accepted this fatal mistake and moved on?

[Viewpoint]

VP honestly your mindset is amazing,run riot around the island?the vast majority(9.9 out of 10) of people in the south vp just want to get on with there lives and live in peace within the EU and enjoy there kids and grandkids.Try to get out of the econiomic mess that the govt got them.You skeak of keeping the south in check?what is turkey the police man of cyprus vp really ,do you ever read what you write?This is why people on the forum tell you to fuck off back to turkey,and then theres erolz who i respect his input claim that there are fanatic gc on this forum what about the fanatic tc ?

What so fanatical about stating you were previously (pre 1974) running riot all over the island, the period up until the 1974 was not avery peaceful one, after 1974 we have lived peacefully side by side for 40 years, you cannot deny this fact. We also want to live peacefully bring up our children and grandchildren but without safeguards to everyone in check like the TA would only take us back to pre 1974, so please understand we do not want this and will never accept such a move, this would be a bad move for everyone.

20 million visitors to South Cyprus on an average of 150euros a pop mounts up to 3 billion Euros, not bad me thinks. And we all know that GCs spend the minimum when they visit North Cyprus so who benefits is obvious.

Uphold the rule of law. Respect the institutions that delegate civil rights. I disagree that the TA has kept any sort of peace. There have been numerous incidents. Cyprus is per square mile one of the most heavily militarized zones in the world. Billions and billions have been spent on armaments. The perception on Cyprus by Cypriots has been that of war. Where do you see peace? ...is it because bullets aren't flying around every day? During the Cold War not one bullet was fired among the USA and ussr, but the trillions spent on war machines is incalculable to the effects on society..who knows the internet may have been in use in the 1950's instead of 1989.

Were you upholding the law in 1963? did you respect the rights of TCs? The TA stepped in where you failed and brought a peaceful exsistence to everyone living on this island. Life before they arrived was hell for us, you discriminated and persecuted the TCs, you did not adhere to your supremem court judgements and you wanted to remove our rights from agreements you signed only 3 years prior because they did not suit you.

I see peace every day I wake up and thank god that I will not be abducted when going to work and thrown down a well all for your cause of wanting to give away our island, 40 years is far more than enough proof to Show the World that stability came to this island after Turkey intervened.

Id rather live a cold war where no bullets are fired and no one dies than what you GCs have tried to force upon us in the past. Many posters here still display the same mentality so trust between the two sides just does not exsist.