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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Maximus » Tue May 06, 2014 11:43 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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When were we given 37%? or at which talks did we claim such a %, I think youll find the maximum that was agreed at the table was 27% with the rights of GCs to return. So you need to get your facts rights and remove the propaganda cobwebs you have in your head.


Show us where this has been agreed at 27% and explain the reason why the TC's need so much territory and why the GC's have to live under a "Turkish" administration?


Refer to the AP and previous proposals between Denktaş and Clerides. 27% takes into account government lands and returning GCs.

We want to have the choice to live under which ever administration we want, why do you want to force me to live under GC administration?


There was no agreement with the Anan plan and I asked you to show me. please show me these proposals where it has been agreed at 27%.

I asked you to explain the reason why the TC's need so much territory and why the GC's have to live under a "Turkish" administration? your reply is a non sequitur.

Your thought process and replies are truly Ottoman style. :roll:


Your posts are a clear indication of your maximlistic mindset, you do not take any notice of what is being written because it does not fit in with what you want to hear. Get over it because no one agrees wth people like you, you are remanats of the eoka years and the narrow mindeness that landed you in this mess in the first place, you only serve as perpetuation of the same cause which will get you nowhere but you are not clever enough to see this fact.

You are still of the mind that Tcs should be condensed into 3% just as your terrorist idols were back in history, which is where people like you are stuck....1974 changed everything forever the only problem is you still havent understood this and still thik that you can go back to a time when you had the upper hand and could manipulate and persecute TCs as you wished, you and people like you who support organizations like elam will never evolve you cannot because your whole ideology is based on some hellenic imperialism so no matter of methodical thinking or compromise the TCs come up with you will just keep asking the same questions in the hope that you will hear what you want to hear.


I am listening so stop waffling and just answer the question.
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Lordo » Tue May 06, 2014 11:48 am

you are pretending you do not understand. when you start comprehending the consequences then we can have a reasonable conversation but for now i am afraid you can stay in your ignorant thoughts dje na howlasis mesadus.
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 06, 2014 11:55 am

Lordo wrote:you are pretending you do not understand. when you start comprehending the consequences then we can have a reasonable conversation but for now i am afraid you can stay in your ignorant thoughts dje na howlasis mesadus.


Exactly Lordo you cannot reason with extremists and maximilists, he can continue to live in his own ignorance and narrow mindedness.
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Maximus » Tue May 06, 2014 11:57 am

Lordo wrote:you are pretending you do not understand. when you start comprehending the consequences then we can have a reasonable conversation but for now i am afraid you can stay in your ignorant thoughts dje na howlasis mesadus.


why don't you clarify Lordo,

So what is this TC going to do with his 50 million? Is he going to burn it by buying GC land from the pseudo authorities in the "TRNC"? :roll:

Why isn't Tymbou being returned to the RoC's control then? (like Varosha and the rest of the island already should be)
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Maximus » Tue May 06, 2014 11:59 am

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Lordo wrote:you are pretending you do not understand. when you start comprehending the consequences then we can have a reasonable conversation but for now i am afraid you can stay in your ignorant thoughts dje na howlasis mesadus.


Exactly Lordo you cannot reason with extremists and maximilists, he can continue to live in his own ignorance and narrow mindedness.


but there is no logical reasoning in your arguments. I am listening to what you say and I also have the right to question. Based upon your responses (or lack of) I will formulate my opinion.

What you do and are doing now is trying to drive criticism or questions away from the issue by avoiding to answer but throw about accusations to try and blindside instead.

Is this so you can crawl back to your dens, recollect your thoughts and muster enough energy to return and lie another day.
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Lordo » Tue May 06, 2014 1:45 pm

maximuimmu which bit are you finding difficult to understand. for every 27 donums of larnaca land we shall have 600 ercan donums and 6000 karpaz donums. it is called market economy.

sorry to say but you are victims of your own success. if you did not oppress the tcs all these decades you would be entitled to more ama in tru arabic words hade yalla.
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby boulio » Tue May 06, 2014 3:23 pm

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Klik wrote:Their right to live?
The problem is that they want to rule the island as a minority. They want to have an independent island-state that is ruled by the minority. If that's not absurd, then what is? It's also never happened anywhere else except in Empires... Someone still has Ottoman mentality it seems.


Do you know what a BBF is? go do some research you sound real dumb.


Yeah we know what your BBF is VP, 37% of Cyprus, twice what your legitimate population entitles you to, our punishment for not accepting the AP etc and for what you claim happened to you pre 1974.


When were we given 37%? or at which talks did we claim such a %, I think youll find the maximum that was agreed at the table was 27% with the rights of GCs to return. So you need to get your facts rights and remove the propaganda cobwebs you have in your head.


In these talks VP The TC ARE claiming realities on the ground and that after 10 years the propertires that were to be given in annan plan have seen vast investments etc etc.You claim that the TC are willing to agree to a north state of 27% and GC RETURNING.Do you know how much land that is? 860 square km VP do you realize how much that is?
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Maximus » Tue May 06, 2014 3:26 pm

Lordo wrote:maximuimmu which bit are you finding difficult to understand. for every 27 donums of larnaca land we shall have 600 ercan donums and 6000 karpaz donums. it is called market economy.

sorry to say but you are victims of your own success. if you did not oppress the tcs all these decades you would be entitled to more ama in tru arabic words hade yalla.


This is called Lordo's Ottoman price guide and its full of crap. Just give back all the property which Turkey stole from the GC's.
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Re: Forget Varosha and TALK CYPRUS

Postby Viewpoint » Wed May 07, 2014 7:53 am

boulio wrote:
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Jerry wrote:
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Klik wrote:Their right to live?
The problem is that they want to rule the island as a minority. They want to have an independent island-state that is ruled by the minority. If that's not absurd, then what is? It's also never happened anywhere else except in Empires... Someone still has Ottoman mentality it seems.


Do you know what a BBF is? go do some research you sound real dumb.


Yeah we know what your BBF is VP, 37% of Cyprus, twice what your legitimate population entitles you to, our punishment for not accepting the AP etc and for what you claim happened to you pre 1974.


When were we given 37%? or at which talks did we claim such a %, I think youll find the maximum that was agreed at the table was 27% with the rights of GCs to return. So you need to get your facts rights and remove the propaganda cobwebs you have in your head.


In these talks VP The TC ARE claiming realities on the ground and that after 10 years the propertires that were to be given in annan plan have seen vast investments etc etc.You claim that the TC are willing to agree to a north state of 27% and GC RETURNING.Do you know how much land that is? 860 square km VP do you realize how much that is?


What your saying is a bit muddled but as far as I can make out Land would be reduced from 3355 sqm to 2448 sqm but you seem to have problems understanding that this division is only for administrative purposes and providing choices for all Cypriots to decide whether they wish to live in the north or south state without forcing one on the other, why are you so concerned about a TC administration and do you take into consideration that we have the same concerns about the GC administartion being forced on the whole island?
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