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[Viewpoint]

No expert has called anything of what you are talking about a federation. give me an example.

Are you kidding me?

well show me, give me an example.

Cyprus commited to a bi-zonal, bi-communal, federal solution

"President of the Republic of Cyprus Demetris Christofias has reiterated his commitment to a bi-zonal, bi-communal, federal solution warning against any attempt to change the agreed base for the solution of the Cyprus problem as defined by the relevant UN Security Council Resolutions since this would offer Turkey the chance to officially place the two-state solution on the negotiation table"

"He added that bizonal, bicommunal federation, with political equality, as defined in the relevant resolutions of the United Nations with a single sovereignty, a single citizenship and a single international personality is the result of an agreement between the two communities since 1977 and has been reaffirmed in 1979 through high Level Agreements of the leaders of that time"

Why hasnt anyone told you?

[Maximus]

I know what a bi-zonal, bi-communal federal solution is.

We have already established that it is going to be made up of two partially governed regions with a central federal government.

but what you are talking about sounds more like a confederation and not a federation.

[Viewpoint]

I know what a bi-zonal, bi-communal federal solution is.

We have already established that it is going to be made up of two partially governed regions with a central federal government.

but what you are talking about sounds more like a confederation and not a federation.

To you, because its something you are against, so you will always feel unaccepting and trying to find flaws not to accept it. Time to move on, we all want to continue to live peacefully and maybe building a federation whereby confidence and prosperity aer achieved a unitary state can be born. You cannot force anything on the other side nor can they force anything on you time you absorbed reality and tried to understand that sharing is not all bad.

[Maximus]

blah blah, blah blah,

Perhaps there has not been a solution to the problem in Cyprus because perhaps, you and your side do not know how a federation works and are derogating towards a 'loose' confederacy.

[Viewpoint]

blah blah, blah blah,

Perhaps there has not been a solution to the problem in Cyprus because perhaps, you and your side do not know how a federation works and are derogating towards a 'loose' confederacy.

Tell us all how it works, its definately not a unitary state.

[Maximus]

blah blah, blah blah,

Perhaps there has not been a solution to the problem in Cyprus because perhaps, you and your side do not know how a federation works and are derogating towards a 'loose' confederacy.

Tell us all how it works, its definately not a unitary state.

A federation works with a democratically elected central government and it can have two partially self governed regions.

[zan]

blah blah, blah blah,

Perhaps there has not been a solution to the problem in Cyprus because perhaps, you and your side do not know how a federation works and are derogating towards a 'loose' confederacy.

Tell us all how it works, its definately not a unitary state.

A federation works with a democratically elected central government and it can have two partially self governed regions.

Whatever shape it takes, is up to us.......As two Cypriots peoples. What you are after is a rigid model that suits only you. Everyone accepts that Cyprus is a problem on its own and will not, and has not, fitted any rigid model.

[Maximus]

blah blah, blah blah,

Perhaps there has not been a solution to the problem in Cyprus because perhaps, you and your side do not know how a federation works and are derogating towards a 'loose' confederacy.

Tell us all how it works, its definately not a unitary state.

A federation works with a democratically elected central government and it can have two partially self governed regions.

Whatever shape it takes, is up to us.......As two Cypriots peoples. What you are after is a rigid model that suits only you. Everyone accepts that Cyprus is a problem on its own and will not, and has not, fitted any rigid model.

but VP is saying that there cannot be any deviations from the Federal model. What I have outlined in one sentence is a BBF that works. I see it as a unitary state because of the central government, with a single international personality and a single citizenship.

[Maximus]

I would even go as far as to say that two regions are not necessary and the model could still be modified to create a federation through a central government.

[zan]

I would even go as far as to say that two regions are not necessary and the model could still be modified to create a federation through a central government.

It will be a BBF but I have heard a hundred versions which proves no one knows for sure, including yours. You cannot isolate this from the rest of our problems. It has also got to be stable and provide the security needed. We can call it what we like..... BBF, LBW or Stavros..........Does it matter?