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[GreekIslandGirl]

Oh so now we are led to believe every single criminal in the occupied north faces extradition? What stopped Asil Nadir from facing extradition for decades then?

- Or do you mean the racist Turk-TCs remove everyone except their own kin-criminals, huh?

No where did I say that every fugitive from justice hiding in the North is summarily expelled but it is a fact that quite a few have been just as it is a fact that extradition (from the de jure RoC or anywhere for that matter) is never instantaneous. What I did do was highlight your ignorant politically and racially motivated bullshit and will now do so again.

Many countries do not extradite their own nationals. France being just one example of such 'racist' countries.

France might not extradite but it certainly will 'prosecute and try citizens accused of crimes committed abroad as if the crime had occurred within the country's borders' .

Was Asil Nadir prosecuted by his kin-Turk-TCs ?

[erolz66]

France might not extradite but it certainly will 'prosecute and try citizens accused of crimes committed abroad as if the crime had occurred within the country's borders' .

Roman Polanski

[boomerang]

They are lying...they are all "disputed" cases between goats and tcs that's all...

[GreekIslandGirl]

France might not extradite but it certainly will 'prosecute and try citizens accused of crimes committed abroad as if the crime had occurred within the country's borders' .

Roman Polanski

Aahh, scraping the barrel. Polanski (Polish by birth) admitted his guilt and apologized/compensated the party concerned when the French prosecuted him. Did your kin-Turkish authorities bother whether Asil Nadir had committed a crime against many people? Or did they just reward him with GC properties and allowed him, over decades, to spend the millions he stole living a lavish lifestyle that attracted all the other crooks?

[kurupetos]

Shame to the UK for not guaranting the sovereignty of the RoC.

If Cyprus was free, none of these criminals could have hidden in the occupied areas.

[erolz66]

Aahh, scraping the barrel. Polanski (Polish by birth) admitted his guilt and apologized/compensated the party concerned when the French prosecuted him.

The French did not prosecute Polanski. All we have here is yet another example of your blatant and wilful distortion of truth and fact to you push your racist and political agenda. You claimed that these wanted criminals had nothing to do with the RoC and are an embarrassment to the UK, yet at least one of them is a RoC citizen and they may well be hiding out in the RoC. You claimed extradition is 'instantaneous' when it is not. You claimed that not extraditing one owns nationals was 'racist' and when shown that several countries do not extradite their own you take a quote from Wikipedia and wilfully and with intent change 'These countries often have laws in place that give them jurisdiction over crimes committed abroad by or against citizens.' to '[France] certainly will'. When shown that there are cases where France both does not extradite its own nationals wanted for crimes in another country and also does not prosecute them in France wither, you simply lie and say they were prosecuted in France. The truth is that countries that do not extradite their own nationals MAY prosecute such for crimes abroad just as they may not. However this truth does not serve your propaganda needs so you simply change it into a lie that does. This is what you always do.

This is just another example of your whole mind set and how you can and will seek to turn any and every 'story' into an attack on TC community, regardless of any actual truth or fact. It is a fact that at least one of these fugitives thought to be hiding out in Cyprus is a Greek Cypriot. It is a fact that one of the quoted reports explicitly states that these fugitives may be hiding out in either the de jure RoC or the north of Cyprus. You simply ignore these facts to suit your agenda that this is a problem that is nothing to do with the RoC at all, solely to do with the UK and the north and solely a result of the un recognised status of the north. You twist and distort in order to absolve GC / the de jure RoC of any blame and responsibility for anything and seek to place all blame on TC / the de facto TRNC and the British, just as you always do.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Did Polanski admit his guilt and face the consequences, or not???????? Of course he did but that doesn't help your manufactured excuses to absolve the Turk-TCs in the face of enormous amounts of cases of ignoring their own crimes and criminals.

Either the TCs are in charge in the occupied areas, and hence culpable for giving refuge to these criminals ..... or do you have another excuse why, once again, they cannot be held responsible like normal human beings?

You dive from case to case that has nothing to do with this situation in order to avoid all the direct questions which have everything to do with this matter.

[erolz66]

Did Polanski admit his guilt and face the consequences, or not????????

No he did not. He absconded from the USA to avoid prosecution. The USA sought extradition because he had NOT faced the consequences of the US prosecution of him but instead fled US jurisdictions. The US tried to extradite him when he visited Switzerland but once again to fought and resisted such extradition. You can make up all the lies you like - that he was prosecuted in France , when in fact he was not, or that he has 'faced the consequences' of his US prosecution, when in fact he fled the US to avoid such consequences and remains wanted by them. Facts remain facts and your willingness to ignore or distort them or just plain lie to pursue your political / racial agenda remains just as blatant as well

Either the TCs are in charge in the occupied areas, and hence culpable for giving refuge to these criminals ..... or do you have another excuse why, once again, they cannot be held responsible like normal human beings?

The TC are as culpable for those criminals hiding out in the north as GC are for those hiding out in the de jure RoC.

You dive from case to case that has nothing to do with this situation in order to avoid all the direct questions which have everything to do with this matter.

The reports quoted talk of fugitives, some British nationals, some Turkish, some TC and some GC, hiding from UK justice in Cyprus, both the de jure RoC and the de facto TRNC. Not only do you totally ignore the fact that the reports refer to ALL of Cyprus whilst you make out it is only about the north you also make up preposterous claims as to why its only the north, based on total bullshit like extradition from the de Jure RoC to UK is 'instantaneous' when it is not and ignore the fact that a number of criminals wanted in the UK have historically been summarily and instantaneously ejected from the north. You then, in order to try and support your bullshit that the north not extraditing its own nationals is atypical and racist, make up lies about how comparative countries like France act and specific examples like Polanski, claiming they were prosecuted in France when they were not and claiming he faced the consequences of the US prosecution against him when in fact he fled the US specifically to avoid them and has to date successfully avoided such consequences by fleeing US justice (unlike Asil Nadir who actually voluntarily returned to the UK and IS facing the consequences of his prosecution there).

This thread is just yet one more example, as if any more were needed, of how you will take truth and fact and wilfully and blatantly ignore and distort it and just make up lies to try and make it fit your political / racial anti TC agenda.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Well, what can we say but your whole statement reads like you are complicit in the cover-up of the crimes both in and by the occupied north.

History repeats itself and so we know these criminals will end up out-of-reach in the illegally held zone. If they don't, they will be found sooner rather than later. Unlike the unruly Turk-TC colony, the RoC actively looks for these criminals. Without active pressure by the British police and zealous searches by the RoC, wherever they can, these criminals will not be surrendered by the Turk-TCs - like in the past whereby your Turk-kin were forced by pressure from the British police to surrender some of the criminals given a safe-haven.

And as for your shameless support of Asil Nadir, no one buys the "he gave himself up" story you have constructed in his favour. After decades, did he suddenly grow some guilty conscience? Or did his ill-health and the change of government in the UK make him think he was going to get off easy? Or did his young wife pressure him into coming clean as she must have been sick to death of living in that dystopian society he helped create.

[erolz66]

Well, what can we say but your whole statement reads like you are complicit in the cover-up of the crimes both in and by the occupied north.

Because I point out your blatant distortion, omissions and lies about these news articles in order to pursue your political / racial agenda I am according to you complicit in the 'cover up' of crimes in and by the north, apparently. Talk about desperate.

And as for your shameless support of Asil Nadir, no one buys the "he gave himself up" story you have constructed in his favour. After decades, did he suddenly grow some guilty conscience? Or did his ill-health and the change of government in the UK make him think he was going to get off easy? Or did his young wife pressure him into coming clean as she must have been sick to death of living in that dystopian society he helped create.

I do not support Asil Nadir. Unlike you I deal in fact and not fiction and lies. I do not know why Asil Nadir decided to voluntarily return to face criminal prosecution in the UK and neither do you. It is however a fact that he did so and is facing the consequences, unlike your blatant lies that Roman Polanksi was tried in France and has faced the consequences of his actions as a result, which are just untrue bullshit made up by you to try and support your earlier bullshit claims. I deal in fact and you just make things up (and leave things out or distort) to suit the needs of your political / racial agenda. That is fact and can clearly be seen in this thread just as it has been seen many times before in many other previous threads. You are at least consistent. You seek to turn everything into an absolving of GC of any culpability and to place blame for everything on TC and the British and if the facts do not support such endeavors you just ignore, distort or lie to suit such a need. It is exactly what you have done here and what you have done in countless other threads as well.