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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:52 pm

Maximus wrote:The Tc's can administer themselves and have some local autonomy but still in line with the EU acquis. There is also no need for the TC's to administer the GC's or "control" territory in Cyprus.


There can't be a solution unless the Turk army leaves with the settlers and all tc's go back to their respective villages.....
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Maximus » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:04 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Maximus wrote:The Tc's can administer themselves and have some local autonomy but still in line with the EU acquis. There is also no need for the TC's to administer the GC's or "control" territory in Cyprus.


There can't be a solution unless the Turk army leaves with the settlers and all tc's go back to their respective villages.....


The Turkish army leaves, I think this is a given.

The settlers should leave and will after a period of time too. In the meantime, I think they can be turned into an asset. They can work on a temporary basis and pay rent to the original property owner. who will decide on the terms of the tenancy agreement, how much is paid or when the property is vacated or if it is sold and for how much. All those businesses in the occupied areas will also start paying corporate tax, bar those that need to be shut down. They can all pay taxes and help the RoC get back on its feet and contribute to repaying its debts to international lenders. Again, the RoC will decide when or if these work permits get renewed. I don't even think the majority of them will be able to afford to live in Cyprus.

The RoC has always maintained the property rights of the TC's.
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:33 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Maximus wrote:The Tc's can administer themselves and have some local autonomy but still in line with the EU acquis. There is also no need for the TC's to administer the GC's or "control" territory in Cyprus.


There can't be a solution unless the Turk army leaves with the settlers and all tc's go back to their respective villages.....


Impossible.
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:35 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:[quote="Viewpoint
You cannot get rid of the 2 states, its a red line for TCs
There can't be two states when one of the two are illegal..Not even the Roc government has the right to sign off on others right of property
Property rights and BBF are two different issues, you sound confused or stupid
You half wit you can't build a BBF where there's no land that tc's own.....


you havent got a clue, give up its just beyond you.
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:36 pm

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Oceanside50 wrote:
Maximus wrote:The Tc's can administer themselves and have some local autonomy but still in line with the EU acquis. There is also no need for the TC's to administer the GC's or "control" territory in Cyprus.


There can't be a solution unless the Turk army leaves with the settlers and all tc's go back to their respective villages.....


The Turkish army leaves, I think this is a given.

The settlers should leave and will after a period of time too. In the meantime, I think they can be turned into an asset. They can work on a temporary basis and pay rent to the original property owner. who will decide on the terms of the tenancy agreement, how much is paid or when the property is vacated or if it is sold and for how much. All those businesses in the occupied areas will also start paying corporate tax, bar those that need to be shut down. They can all pay taxes and help the RoC get back on its feet and contribute to repaying its debts to international lenders. Again, the RoC will decide when or if these work permits get renewed. I don't even think the majority of them will be able to afford to live in Cyprus.

The RoC has always maintained the property rights of the TC's.


Great joke, your funniest post yet.
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby boulio » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:43 pm

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boulio wrote:your asking thru eroglu two countries,two peoples two sovergnties under a confederal umbrella,


This is rubbish, just look what we have signed up (joint declaration) one country made up of 2 states under a federal umbrella with political equalityof the 2 states.


The UN never meant political equality in the sence of double majorities but.......

Since you love stressing political equality between the states,then this is my suggestion for guranterors in a future BBF solution:

In order for any country to intervene in cyprus there must be a vote with a two thirds majority from both "states"

Deal?
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:[quote="Viewpoint
You cannot get rid of the 2 states, its a red line for TCs
There can't be two states when one of the two are illegal..Not even the Roc government has the right to sign off on others right of property
Property rights and BBF are two different issues, you sound confused or stupid
You half wit you can't build a BBF where there's no land that tc's own.....


you havent got a clue, give up its just beyond you.


the only viable and just solution for everyone is for all to go back to their respective villages gc and tc.....trying to build a state on stolen lands is impossible while in the EU. A turkish charade of this magnitude could only be pulled off in the heart of anatolia.
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:47 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:[quote="Viewpoint
You cannot get rid of the 2 states, its a red line for TCs
There can't be two states when one of the two are illegal..Not even the Roc government has the right to sign off on others right of property
Property rights and BBF are two different issues, you sound confused or stupid
You half wit you can't build a BBF where there's no land that tc's own.....


you havent got a clue, give up its just beyond you.


the only viable and just solution for everyone is for all to go back to their respective villages gc and tc.....trying to build a state on stolen lands is impossible while in the EU. A turkish charade of this magnitude could only be pulled off in the heart of anatolia.


My mothers home has been erased, where is she to go? please get serious how old are you 10?
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:[quote="Viewpoint
You cannot get rid of the 2 states, its a red line for TCs
There can't be two states when one of the two are illegal..Not even the Roc government has the right to sign off on others right of property
Property rights and BBF are two different issues, you sound confused or stupid
You half wit you can't build a BBF where there's no land that tc's own.....


you havent got a clue, give up its just beyond you.


the only viable and just solution for everyone is for all to go back to their respective villages gc and tc.....trying to build a state on stolen lands is impossible while in the EU. A turkish charade of this magnitude could only be pulled off in the heart of anatolia.


My mothers home has been erased, where is she to go? please get serious how old are you 10?


what are you talking about man?....
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Re: Ozersay says "No" to the EU - bunch of Jokers!

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:49 pm

boulio wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:your asking thru eroglu two countries,two peoples two sovergnties under a confederal umbrella,


This is rubbish, just look what we have signed up (joint declaration) one country made up of 2 states under a federal umbrella with political equalityof the 2 states.


The UN never meant political equality in the sence of double majorities but.......

Since you love stressing political equality between the states,then this is my suggestion for guranterors in a future BBF solution:

In order for any country to intervene in cyprus there must be a vote with a two thirds majority from both "states"

Deal?


How will that work, if you are beating the shit out of me? you will not vote for intervention, please get real, thought you were cleverer than that.
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