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[boulio]

your asking thru eroglu two countries,two peoples two sovergnties under a confederal umbrella,

[Viewpoint]

your asking thru eroglu two countries,two peoples two sovergnties under a confederal umbrella,

This is rubbish, just look what we have signed up (joint declaration) one country made up of 2 states under a federal umbrella with political equalityof the 2 states.

[Kikapu]

Its the EUs fault and now their problem because they saw the picture a divided island yet still proceeded now they can not claim to be impartial, its ridiculous.

You forget that the whole island of Cyprus has been accepted into the EU as one country and not as a divided island, because they do not see Cyprus as divided by the will of the people, but instead, divided through illegal occupation by Turkey in 1974. Under the circumstances, EU laws, partial or impartial, will apply to ALL citizens of Cyprus, since they are also citizens of the EU, including the TCs. The TCs have no choice but to accept the EU laws since the north state will not be outside the EU laws in a Federation settlement. Hoping for an apartheid solution without EU laws is going to be futile, just as it was in 2004 with the Annan Plan.

Anyway, it’s no point discussing all this at this point until all sides have agreed on all the issues for a settlement, not unless you want to get an ulcer, in which case, leave me out of it.

So Switzerlands laws are apartied laws? good idea stay out of it.

Really?

[Maximus]

Ozersay is looking for the excuse to blame the GC's or the EU for taking bricks out. He is not negotiating along any of the lines outlined in the draft communique.

the best solution is for Turkey to end the occupation of Cyprus and withdraw, the settlers can start paying rent to the original property owners and get temporary work permits and pay taxes to the RoC. The GC's can implement the EU aquis island wide and rub out the mountain flag, tomorrow. The problem is nearly solved.

[Viewpoint]

Ozersay is looking for the excuse to blame the GC's or the EU for taking bricks out. He is not negotiating along any of the lines outlined in the draft communique.

the best solution is for Turkey to end the occupation of Cyprus and withdraw, the settlers can start paying rent to the original property owners and get temporary work permits and pay taxes to the RoC. The GC's can implement the EU aquis island wide and rub out the mountain flag, tomorrow. The problem is nearly solved.

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The EU cannot force its aquis on the TCs if they do not agree to it, Im certain the majority is not a problem but of course there will be issues unacceptable in the intial stages and maybe acceptable after a periods of adjustment. But if these laws place our state at a disadvantage or hand the whole island to the GCs on a plate they can go to hell.

[Maximus]

Ozersay is looking for the excuse to blame the GC's or the EU for taking bricks out. He is not negotiating along any of the lines outlined in the draft communique.

the best solution is for Turkey to end the occupation of Cyprus and withdraw, the settlers can start paying rent to the original property owners and get temporary work permits and pay taxes to the RoC. The GC's can implement the EU aquis island wide and rub out the mountain flag, tomorrow. The problem is nearly solved.

Security
Power sharing
Bizonal %

The EU cannot force its aquis on the TCs if they do not agree to it, Im certain the majority is not a problem but of course there will be issues unacceptable in the intial stages and maybe acceptable after a periods of adjustment. But if these laws place our state at a disadvantage or hand the whole island to the GCs on a plate they can go to hell.

You are missing the point. The outcome is supposed to be a united democratic country, with a single international personality and a member state of the EU.

[Viewpoint]

So BBF with politcal equality of the 2 states does not fit in with your plans.

[Maximus]

So BBF with politcal equality of the 2 states does not fit in with your plans.

Its a way but not my preferred way and there does not need to be two states.

[Demonax]

The EU cannot force its aquis on the TCs if they do not agree to it...

Er. That is the whole point of EU law. All domestic law must be drafted according to the EU model. You don't get to pick and choose which EU laws suit you. The whole island will have one international legal personality under EU law. The EU acquis is only temporarily suspended in the occupied areas pending reunification. There won't be any permanent exceptions from EU law. No point in wishing it was otherwise...

[Viewpoint]

So BBF with politcal equality of the 2 states does not fit in with your plans.

Its a way but not my preferred way and there does not need to be two states.

You cannot get rid of the 2 states, its a red line for TCs.