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[Viewpoint]

specific examples please, what has been agreed?parts of the governence was agreed but the tc didnt want cross voting so we are back to square one.

Ozersay said that “agreement” or “convergence” has been achieved on many chapters in the negotiations and reiterated that “if some bricks are taken out the entire building will collapse”. Taking out bricks means the GCs want it to collapse meaning they are being intrangient.

[Oceanside50]

there is no eu law. it is what we make it.

Spoken like a true Turk.

Unfortunately, you cannot escape the law. It will be the end of your pirate existence. Better get used to it!

As Vp has already said, the EU have already bent the law by accepting a divided island into the EU when its own laws says it should not, so I would be less excited if I were you They are now asking us to play along with that illegality


Ozersay is your best bet guys. He is no fool. Despite having had his father and his brother executed against a wall......... and dealing with you guys for nearly twenty years, he did not have a bad word to say against the GCs, when I met him. Only desperate to break through the GC intransigence.

that illegality, is Turkey being an illegal occupier of sovereign EU territory. The ROC is the dejure sovereign of the entire island of Cyprus. Trying to build an illegal entity on others land is another illegality.

[boulio]

specific examples please, what has been agreed?parts of the governence was agreed but the tc didnt want cross voting so we are back to square one.

Ozersay said that “agreement” or “convergence” has been achieved on many chapters in the negotiations and reiterated that “if some bricks are taken out the entire building will collapse”. Taking out bricks means the GCs want it to collapse meaning they are being intrangient.

Ozersay is going by Downers 77 page document where there have many inconsistancies whith what has been agreeded and by the way is not a offical document sighned off by christofias concerning convergencies.Any thing else specific or will you be sighting notes by a FORMER un rep.

[Viewpoint]

specific examples please, what has been agreed?parts of the governence was agreed but the tc didnt want cross voting so we are back to square one.

Ozersay said that “agreement” or “convergence” has been achieved on many chapters in the negotiations and reiterated that “if some bricks are taken out the entire building will collapse”. Taking out bricks means the GCs want it to collapse meaning they are being intrangient.

Ozersay is going by Downers 77 page document where there have many inconsistancies whith what has been agreeded and by the way is not a offical document sighned off by christofias concerning convergencies.Any thing else specific or will you be sighting notes by a FORMER un rep.

Proves my point, you cannot expect to go back to square 1 everytime your leaders change or you get rid of the UN official, this shows GCs are intrangient. Downer didnt just pen these convergencies on his own they were put there by our leaders, there should be consistency not a continous covering of old ground.

[boulio]

is it a signed document by christofias talat and eroglu?for all we know you could have written it.

[Kikapu]

Its the EUs fault and now their problem because they saw the picture a divided island yet still proceeded now they can not claim to be impartial, its ridiculous.

You forget that the whole island of Cyprus has been accepted into the EU as one country and not as a divided island, because they do not see Cyprus as divided by the will of the people, but instead, divided through illegal occupation by Turkey in 1974. Under the circumstances, EU laws, partial or impartial, will apply to ALL citizens of Cyprus, since they are also citizens of the EU, including the TCs. The TCs have no choice but to accept the EU laws since the north state will not be outside the EU laws in a Federation settlement. Hoping for an apartheid solution without EU laws is going to be futile, just as it was in 2004 with the Annan Plan.

Anyway, it’s no point discussing all this at this point until all sides have agreed on all the issues for a settlement, not unless you want to get an ulcer, in which case, leave me out of it.

[Viewpoint]

is it a signed document by christofias talat and eroglu?for all we know you could have written it.

Why are you being so obstinent? nothing is signed until its all been agreed, if thats the case and its appears you want to give the GCs the freedom to be intrangient by repetetively going over convered and agreed issues by as you claim but its not been signed, if that attitude is dadopted then they will never agree anything in the 1000 years as they will always take the easy option and say as you said but nothing has been signed.

[Viewpoint]

Its the EUs fault and now their problem because they saw the picture a divided island yet still proceeded now they can not claim to be impartial, its ridiculous.

You forget that the whole island of Cyprus has been accepted into the EU as one country and not as a divided island, because they do not see Cyprus as divided by the will of the people, but instead, divided through illegal occupation by Turkey in 1974. Under the circumstances, EU laws, partial or impartial, will apply to ALL citizens of Cyprus, since they are also citizens of the EU, including the TCs. The TCs have no choice but to accept the EU laws since the north state will not be outside the EU laws in a Federation settlement. Hoping for an apartheid solution without EU laws is going to be futile, just as it was in 2004 with the Annan Plan.

Anyway, it’s no point discussing all this at this point until all sides have agreed on all the issues for a settlement, not unless you want to get an ulcer, in which case, leave me out of it.

So Switzerlands laws are apartied laws? good idea stay out of it.

[boulio]

what the tc are asking for and what happens in switzerland are amillion miles apart vp.

[Viewpoint]

what the tc are asking for and what happens in switzerland are amillion miles apart vp.

What are we asking for that so different or difficult to accept? please no hearsay.