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[boulio]

she could have easily consulted greece vp,phase 1of attila the turkish army controlled 3-5% of territory the junta had fallen and negotiations were going on in switzerland.Up to her everything is fine and turkey is within her rights on the treaty.

what happened next and can you please explain.

The reason the "trnc"has no case is that no one was ethnicaly cleased in kosovo and crimea.Settlers werent brought in to replace the local population that was.Hence kosovo has 100 recognitions and you have one.Crimea will have more that you by this time next year.

[Maximus]

she could have easily consulted greece vp,phase 1of attila the turkish army controlled 3-5% of territory the junta had fallen and negotiations were going on in switzerland.Up to her everything is fine and turkey is within her rights on the treaty.

what happened next and can you please explain.

The reason the "trnc"has no case is that no one was ethnicaly cleased in kosovo and crimea.Settlers werent brought in to replace the local population that was.Hence kosovo has 100 recognitions and you have one.Crimea will have more that you by this time next year.

Boulio, although you are correct, I would seriously question the guarantors rights to 'intervene' which would essentially mean that Turkey is allowed to maintain an apartheid in Cyprus. The alternative to the second invasion of 1974 for the GC's would have been apartheid and continued suppression/oppression. Every day would have been an undemocratic Erdogan day, with the "TC's".

Either way, no so called guarantor guaranteed the territorial integrity of Cyprus.

These agreements that VP & Co keep referring to are legally invalid pieces of colonial paper, that no one recognizes.

the whole foundation and philosophy of their argument's are based on backwardness and brainwashed folly.

[Mustiejodu]

Turkey's actions in northern cyprus and Russia's in the Crimea are not comparable

You my son have missed the point and gone off the radar. The us,eu and uk would rather have turkey at her door steps than Russia. No matter what GC s think of turkey which is an isolated opinion the rest of the free world as mentioned need turkey in cyprus to keep their interests in tact and that's why they don't care about turkey flying in to your air space or breaking rules? It is in their interest to have a huge existence of the turkish army in cyprus that's why they never seriously object to it and that's why it has to be the turkish army. Turkey is their security guard in cyprus keeping everything in check in the surrounding area. Why do you think when cyprus wanted to bring messiles from Russia into cyprus turkey threatened to invade and no USA,UK or EU objected because they know GC s are a grey area and they can turn their backs on the western world and align with Russia that's the only reason they allowed you into eu. It was just to dangle a carrot. Are they not doing the same to Ukraine ? Open your eyes and stop protesting for turkey to get out of cyprus because their presence actually keeps the peace and if you can't see it then you are blind. With the british and turkish presence in cyprus this keeps your russian comrads out of cyprus and keeps you in check because GC s have proven in history not to be trusted as if you had the chance you would want to gain backing from Russia more than the support you already get. Forget about the turkish army withdrawing from cyprus given the obvious intentions of Russia turkey would increase her army presence in cyprus. Cyprus is just a big army barracks for turkey.

Your comments and thesis is so idiotic that it doesn't justify a reply

Fuck off you prick. I started this topic and I write what ever I want to write. It's a forum you plonker. At least I promote discussion . The forum needs a bit of sparkle and individual opinions. All you do is quote from newspapers, tv etc or what ever everyone else believes in. Majority opinion does not mean it's the right answer. A prime example was when the nazi s were in power . They TRUELY believed what they done was right. Was it right ?

[boulio]

like i said idiotic and watch your mouth with your internet muscles

[Viewpoint]

she could have easily consulted greece vp,phase 1of attila the turkish army controlled 3-5% of territory the junta had fallen and negotiations were going on in switzerland.Up to her everything is fine and turkey is within her rights on the treaty.

what happened next and can you please explain.

The reason the "trnc"has no case is that no one was ethnicaly cleased in kosovo and crimea.Settlers werent brought in to replace the local population that was.Hence kosovo has 100 recognitions and you have one.Crimea will have more that you by this time next year.

Consulted who exactly in Greece? the junta or the new formed naive government, all systems were go and they had already landed against heavy resistence, with the same Gc intragience they have always shown Turkey had no option after the breadown of talks in switzerland but to move forward and solve this problem therefore the followed through with what was response to the GCs enosis dream Taksim which is like divide to little children who keep fighting so they wont hurt one another. To this day we have solved nothing that would warrant Turkeys departure, thats why the leaders are still talking 40 years of talks and we have still not provided a reason for Turkey to leave.

Gookluck to Crimea and Kosova as long as it brings a peaceful exsistence Im all for them having thier own country as I am for TCs but seeing that you GCs love us so much (joke) compromise appears to be the only way forward thats why Im willing to share under a BBF, are you?

[boulio]

what problem to solve VP?THE JUNTA IN ATHENS AND SAMPSON in lefkosia were gone,Makarios was alive.

what heavy resistence ?are you making tghings up tio justify your expansionist policy in cyprus.

Im still waiting to tell me what the security agreement says,not your thesis on the matter.Turkey signed a documnet that gave her rights to intervene,after she intervenes in the documents what are her obligations?

[Viewpoint]

what problem to solve VP?THE JUNTA IN ATHENS AND SAMPSON in lefkosia were gone,Makarios was alive.

what heavy resistence ?are you making tghings up tio justify your expansionist policy in cyprus.

Im still waiting to tell me what the security agreement says,not your thesis on the matter.Turkey signed a documnet that gave her rights to intervene,after she intervenes in the documents what are her obligations?

You conveniently forget the problems for the TCs started in 1963 and exploded in 1974, the first invasion was not the Turks but the Greek army and coup to achieve enosis, Sampson may have been removed but the arrow had already left the bow, the GCs had left things to late they had a full 14 years to put things right but what did they do keep the enosis flame alight and alienate the TCs. You played with fire and got burned complaining or denying the reality of the past will not make it go away, accept it and move on.

Tell that to the Turkish soldiers that died when trying to land on the beaches in Kyrenia, but this is something you can never accept as you are a GCs and all your suffering was caused by everyone else but yourselves.

Turkey under the 1960 agreements had the right to intervene and she did, her role is to bring about a solution and leave, do we have a solution NO so its only natural that she stays.

[boulio]

again with your "history"

what does the agreement say word for word?

[boulio]

See i know what the document says and so do you but you cant come to say it because it destorys your thesis and that is why you WILL NEVER BE RECOGNIZED.So go and write a thesis about that.

[Viewpoint]

what does the agreement say word for word.

You want me to dig out your constitution and give you Word for Word details of guarantor power rights, what did your last slave die of? do it yourself.

Turkey is a guarantor country just like the UK and Greece, that gives them the right to intervene full stop.....what are you trying to prove?