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[Demonax]

Right back at you Demonax. we can condemn the naivety but not the intent, as I have already said. Shows we do not teach our people to hate, unlike you.

We hold you accountable for your deeds and words. We also hold you accountable for your silent complicity.

We condemn the act AND the moral degradation which it signifies.

We will continue to highlight the shameless desecration of our sacred sites and the ongoing usurpation of our land and homes.

And we will continue to hold you accountable without exception. Just as much as for what you don’t say.

[erolz66]

Nonsense. You continue to exploit our property, vandalise our graveyards and churches, and hold our towns hostage in the hope you can gain from it. Instead of agitating to return what rightly belongs to us you continually try to find ways to deprive us of our land and homes and to keep what you have stolen.

Yeah because before 74 TC had no homes of their own in Cyprus. We just stole it all from you post 74 and lost nothing ourselves. All that happened in 74 was a result of TC greed and desire to steal, because genetically we are inferior and thieves. Nothing your community did played any part in the situation we have today. Why do you not just fuck off Demonax.

Until you show some remorse and sense of shame for the theft, desecration and plunder of our lands then you are all culpable and we hold you all accountable.

Have you personally ever done anything constructive about graveyards from either community on either side of Cyprus ? I mean actually put in some time or actual effort to make things better ? Of course you have not, you just sit there on your ass, behind your keyboard, spouting your holier than thou propaganda bullshit. When I tried to organise a bi communal effort to clean up a graveyard close to me you know what the response from one of your GC brethren was to this effort ? It was this is a bad idea because if you do not give my community what it wants we may have to at some point in the future kill you and a bi communal activity like this would make it harder to kill you and thus is a bad idea. You want to know the truth about this effort to improve the condition of one graveyard in the North ? The truth is most Cypriots, with a few exceptions, on either side could not be assed to actually put in any time and effort to make a difference. It was easier to get 'carpet bagging' expats to actually give their own time and effort on such a project than it was Cypriots. You do not want the graveyards to be looked after and cared for - you WANT to be able to use them as a propaganda weapon. You actually care fuck all for them in themselves, they are just a tool for you. You prefer being in a bad uncared for state (even if its the same state 80% of all graveyards across Europe are in). Do not try and pretend that graveyards and whole villages in the South that used to be TC have not been desecrated, demolished, plundered and used as sheds for livestock.

[erolz66]

Rubbish, the flood of condemnation from your side even on this forum has been over whelming, not. There in lies your answer. Trust the Turk to find an excuse to justify this obscene behaviour. Says it all really. Hade gamisou.

Where the fuck do I excuse this act ? You are one of the worst and most consistent racists here on this forum B25. Trust the Greek to show xenophobic attitudes and a deep seated belief in their own racial superiority. You see what I did there ? Calling you a Greek and not a Cypriot. Assigning negative traits to an entire race. Where do you think I got that idea from you small minded racist fuck.

[B25]

Rubbish, the flood of condemnation from your side even on this forum has been over whelming, not. There in lies your answer. Trust the Turk to find an excuse to justify this obscene behaviour. Says it all really. Hade gamisou.

Where the fuck do I excuse this act ? You are one of the worst and most consistent racists here on this forum B25. Trust the Greek to show xenophobic attitudes and a deep seated belief in their own racial superiority. You see what I did there ? Calling you a Greek and not a Cypriot. Assigning negative traits to an entire race. Where do you think I got that idea from you small minded racist fuck.

Fuck you. Racists are you scumbag turks. Where is your comment to condemn this action, hmm, hmm. Yes just as i thought, no f where. Your silence says it all. Arsehole.

[Demonax]

Yeah because before 74 TC had no homes of their own in Cyprus. We just stole it all from you post 74 and lost nothing ourselves. All that happened in 74 was a result of TC greed and desire to steal, because genetically we are inferior and thieves. Nothing your community did played any part in the situation we have today.

What the fuck are you on about? You think the share of TC property before 1974 equates to a third of the island? You are seriously deluded.

And I note the offensive suggestion that the current situation is our fault! Idiot! How many times are you imbeciles going to try and pass off the rapes, murders, massacres and ethnic cleansing of the invasion as our fault? What's wrong with you people? How do you even think it's normal or decent to write such offensive drivel on a public forum? And you wonder why you are regarded as moral reprobates.

You do not want the graveyards to be looked after and cared for - you WANT to be able to use them as a propaganda weapon.

Yes, mate. The desecration and vandalism of churches and graveyards in the occupied areas is our fault. We like it that way to make you look bad. Idiot!

[erolz66]

Fuck you. Racists are you scumbag turks. Where is your comment to condemn this action, hmm, hmm. Yes just as i thought, no f where. Your silence says it all. Arsehole.

To take these pictures in the location they were taken was insensitive and stupid. Of course it was. What is more is the person who took them has said as much themselves and apologised for doing so. TC here and on CF have said the same.

That you want to use this incident to push your small minded racist agenda that basically says you are superior and do no wrong past or present because you are Greek and we are inferior because firstly we are not Greek and secondly and even more so we are Turks (according to you) and all we do is by your definition wrong and evil and corrupt - because we are not Greek and are Turks. This fundamental and deep seated racism of yours and some others on this forum is the real issue here as far as I am concerned.

You are a racist fuck. You know it and anyone who has read your posts here over the years knows it. That is entirely down to you and you alone B25. So wail your false crocodile tears over this total non issue, that has already been apologise for in any case - doing so will not make you any less of a small minded racist fuck.

[Demonax]

That you want to use this incident to push your small minded racist agenda that basically says you are superior and do no wrong past or present because you are Greek and we are inferior...

There is only one issue here. Why did these people think a vandalized Greek Cypriot graveyard was an acceptable place to film a ‘fashion shoot’? What kind of sick society gives rise to people who think it’s chic to hold on to the cross of a deceased person while posing as if they were in an exotic location?

The occupied areas are littered with the desecrated remains of our heritage and we are right to demand that you show respect and responsibility towards our sacred places.

Just as you squat illegally in our homes and exploit our land, so you pass by our heritage as if it is nothing and belongs to no-one. We will hold you to account. And we will take no moral lessons from the likes of you.

[erolz66]

What the fuck are you on about? You think the share of TC property before 1974 equates to a third of the island? You are seriously deluded. And I note the offensive suggestion that the current situation is our fault! Idiot!

Your whole thesis is that we are in the state we are today still because TC (all of them) are greedy thieving bastards who just wanted to steal from poor innocent GC. It utter BS and you know it yet it remains your core thesis. The whole thesis that the Cyprus problem was caused by and continues because TC are greedy thieves is just racist, revisionist propaganda bullshit that seeks to absolve your community of ANY culpability.

How many times are you imbeciles going to try and pass off the rapes, murders, massacres and ethnic cleansing of the invasion as our fault? What's wrong with you people? How do you even think it's normal or decent to write such offensive drivel on a public forum?

How many times are you imbeciles going to try and pretend that the Cyprus problem started in 74 and before that there was nothing but poor honest hard working GC with nothing but compassion and love for their TC compatriots, who turned around and repaid this love with rape and murder and ethnic cleansing, all for greed and desire to steal what was not theirs.

Yes, mate. The desecration and vandalism of churches and graveyards in the occupied areas is our fault. We like it that way to make you look bad. Idiot!

The desecration (as far as it even exists - its mainly neglect and I can show you such neglect in ANY European country) of graveyards in the north is not your fault. Seeking to exploit a single silly act by a single individual to further your agenda of labelling ALL TC are greedy thieving bastards that are the sole cause for the Cyprus problem and its continuation IS your fault. As is the desecration and neglect of TC graveyards in the south your communities fault.

If you REALLY cared for the sate of GC cemeteries in the North then you would be willing to DO something about it, not just spout of your propaganda. I already have a personal track record of over 20 hours of my personal time and effort spent cleaning up and improving the state of a GC cemetery in the North. Are you willing to spend even ONE hour actually making some personal effort to improve things ? Of course you are not. You prefer your role as holier than thou keyboard warrior propaganda BS spouting. It is after all so much easier is it not ? I will match you hour for hour actually DOING something but I know you have no fucking interest what so ever in the actual state of GC cemeteries in the North beyond their propaganda uses to you.

[erolz66]

There is only one issue here. Why did these people think a vandalized Greek Cypriot graveyard was an acceptable place to film a ‘fashion shoot’?

That is the whole point. The individual who took these photos did not think. They fucked up. As soon as they realised they fucked up they apologised for their thoughtlessness. Lets get some fucking perspective here, though clearly that's NOT your agenda. I mean they did not kill anyone based on their ethnicity and dump their body in a well or anything.

What kind of sick society gives rise to people who think it’s chic to hold on to the cross of a deceased person while posing as if they were in an exotic location?

And thus we get again to the real real issue. What kind of sick individual takes a stupid thoughtless act by one individual and tries to use it as a means to launch an attack on a whole 'society' (when I fact they mean an entire ethnic group but use the word 'society' in a pathetic attempt to hide the inherent racism in their effort).

[Demonax]

Your whole thesis is that we are in the state we are today still because TC (all of them) are greedy thieving bastards...

No it isn’t. My thesis is that you are complicit in the Turkish occupation, rape and plunder of Greek Cypriot land. You are thieving bastards because the opportunity arose and you took advantage of it. Even to this day you are scheming to find ways to continue to deprive us of our ancestral homes and land.

How many times are you imbeciles going to try and pretend that the Cyprus problem started in 74...

How many times are we going to hear that the invasion, murders, rapes and ethnic cleansing were necessary in order to ‘save’ the poor innocent TCs? You're willing to swallow such nonsense because you cannot contemplate the alternative: that you are complicit in a war crime and have lost all moral stake on the island. You need to try and pass off your own guilt on to us so that we can relieve you of your complicity. We refuse to do so. How it must irk you!

The desecration (as far as it even exists - its mainly neglect and I can show you such neglect in ANY European country)

Yes, mate. You have been ‘neglectful’ of our churches and graveyards. So much so that when we repair and make the effort to tidy them (as my family did in our occupied village’s graveyard) they are immediately desecrated the next day by you filthy vandals.

How you can come on here and spout such nonsense and make such pathetic excuses defies credibility. You're really better off saying nothing rather than trying to justify the indefensible.