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[Pyrpolizer]

To make it as simple as possible I have used picture No 4 to draw circles within which the emmitter has sent the signals that were received and verified.
Here it is.



Do you have to be a rocket scientist to conclude that:

They tell me one thing guys: That each and everyone of those pings is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE to ALL OTHERS.
That the only way possible for that happening could be if the the beacon emitting the signals WAS MOVING.
If ping No 1 is correct then all others are wrong.If more than 1 pings is correct, then the "man made device" was moving

It was ADV Ocean Shield that was in the area. On top of that, Australian AP-3C Orions blitz the entire area. If anything was moving underwater, the Australians would pick it up 100% guaranteed!

Even a divers pinger moving by itself?

[Paphitis]

To make it as simple as possible I have used picture No 4 to draw circles within which the emmitter has sent the signals that were received and verified.
Here it is.



Do you have to be a rocket scientist to conclude that:

They tell me one thing guys: That each and everyone of those pings is MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE to ALL OTHERS.
That the only way possible for that happening could be if the the beacon emitting the signals WAS MOVING.
If ping No 1 is correct then all others are wrong.If more than 1 pings is correct, then the "man made device" was moving

It was ADV Ocean Shield that was in the area. On top of that, Australian AP-3C Orions blitz the entire area. If anything was moving underwater, the Australians would pick it up 100% guaranteed!

Even a divers pinger moving by itself?

Moving by itself? How?

AP-3C Orions usually lay 36 sonobuoys in a 2 by 18 grid or 3 by 12 or 4 by 9. Nothing can slip through the net. American and Russian Subs alike are sitting ducks. Usually follow them across the globe as well. Where there is a Russian Sub, you will find an Orion in the air.

[Pyrpolizer]

By floating or submerged and be carried away by currents.

[Paphitis]

By floating or submerged and be carried away by currents.

It would sink.

Look, I don't believe there is any motive whatsoever to cover anything up because I do not believe there is anything to cover up. It just sounds way over the top and even if it was shot down because of Diego Garcia or something similar, it would be just easier to come out and just admit it and give the reasons for this action.

It's not as if any international law was broken by the country that would shoot down an aircraft. At the end of the day, provided they exhausted all avenues and followed procedure, it is quite legitimate to eliminate a threat within your ADIZ.

The Americans would just say they had to shoot down an airliner because they believed it was about to attack their base 911 style. And since the airliner was thousands if kms from its course, world opinion would support the US of A!

There really is no legal avenue for the US to be liable or open to any criminal or civil action from the relatives either.

Neither would there be significant political cost. China knows the score since it would do the same.

[Paphitis]

Not to mention the fact that 26 countries were on a wild goose chase costing a lot money!

And what if we lost an Orion out at sea? Unlikely, but when your flying at 300Ft over a vast ocean, you do need your wits about you. It is not your typical B777 flight. It is dangerous.

It's just way too hard even for the Americans.

Firstly, imagine the resources required to remove all the debris from the ocean. You can't leave a single article behind and the ocean would be littered with all kinds of floating objects over dozens of kms. And somehow you have to do it without anyone seeing a damn thing or picking up any debris.

[Pyrpolizer]

By floating or submerged and be carried away by currents.

It would sink.

Look, I don't believe there is any motive whatsoever to cover anything up because I do not believe there is anything to cover up. It just sounds way over the top and even if it was shot down because of Diego Garcia or something similar, it would be just easier to come out and just admit it and give the reasons for this action.

It's not as if any international law was broken by the country that would shoot down an aircraft. At the end of the day, provided they exhausted all avenues and followed procedure, it is quite legitimate to eliminate a threat within your ADIZ.

The Americans would just say they had to shoot down an airliner because they believed it was about to attack their base 911 style. And since the airliner was thousands if kms from its course, world opinion would support the US of A!

There really is no legal avenue for the US to be liable or open to any criminal or civil action from the relatives either.

Neither would there be significant political cost. China knows the score since it would do the same.

Depending on what is attached to it could stay submerged or floating. Not everything sinks not everything floats.
Regardless this is one of the two options concluded from the positions of their own 4 verified 4 pings.
If you think there is another reasonable explanation let's hear it.

[Paphitis]

By floating or submerged and be carried away by currents.

It would sink.

Look, I don't believe there is any motive whatsoever to cover anything up because I do not believe there is anything to cover up. It just sounds way over the top and even if it was shot down because of Diego Garcia or something similar, it would be just easier to come out and just admit it and give the reasons for this action.

It's not as if any international law was broken by the country that would shoot down an aircraft. At the end of the day, provided they exhausted all avenues and followed procedure, it is quite legitimate to eliminate a threat within your ADIZ.

The Americans would just say they had to shoot down an airliner because they believed it was about to attack their base 911 style. And since the airliner was thousands if kms from its course, world opinion would support the US of A!

There really is no legal avenue for the US to be liable or open to any criminal or civil action from the relatives either.

Neither would there be significant political cost. China knows the score since it would do the same.

Depending on what is attached to it could stay submerged. Not everything sinks not everything floats.
Regardless this is one of the two options concluded from the positions of their own 4 verified 4 pings.
If you think there is another reasonable explanation let's hear it.

But why would they do this? Please read my previous post!

It would be 100 times easier and better to just come clean. Why wouldn't they in such a situation?

[Pyrpolizer]

You should ask them my friend!

I don't doubt the Australians did everything to the letter.
But I don't think they are stupid. I am absolutely certain they are already raising a brow after looking at those locations that they managed to pick up pings.
Like I said before given the fact that each and every one of those locations is mutually exclusive to the rest they will have to check the remote possibility of ONLY 1 out of those 4 verified pings could be the REAL THING. Although they will still be suspicious as to why they received the other 3.
They will do what they have to do "by the book" and then forget all about it.
So what will they do? They will scan the floor within that area knowing that the chance to find anything is near zero.
After doing that they will forget all about it.

[GreekIslandGirl]

My list of everything confirmed - so far.


1. The flight was deliberately diverted.

2. Its communication systems manually switched off.

3. No new electronic pings have been heard since April 8th (and even those were unconfirmed as genuine).

4. Revealed that "experts" are no longer certain whether the plane had run out of fuel or not.

5. Over 5 weeks later, still no debris found.

6. Discovery; as "all-hope-pinned-on-submersible" now deemed a task- failure - we are amazed we cannot even measure ocean depths.

7. Released today (16/04/14): Further sub-searches in 'proposed' plane-endpoint prove negative.

8. The 2Litres of oil/pollution tested were not from the *missing* plane.

9. Some parts of the Southern Indian Ocean being searched are in excess (?) of 23,000 feet (>7Km). If the plane had gone down here (40 days ago), then the black box would be crashed by the water pressure by now. (They are designed to withstand 20,000 feet for up to 30 days.)

[GreekIslandGirl]

P.S.

Apparently, the Black Box's survival ability is further reduced in salty water ...