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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Oil Sample confirmed to be unrelated to MH370!


So what was it exactly, because claim was made that it could not have come from any of the search ships?


And it didn't! I think they would know if their ships were leaking.


Well, what was it, crude oil, diesel oil or olive oil?

Actually, all ship of all sizes spill some oil into the water when ever the bilges where the engines are emptied automatically by the bilge pumps as soon as the water level rises to a point to activate the pumps. You can't prevent this.


Probably just some pollutants. A ship emptied its bilge!
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Kikapu » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:01 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Oil Sample confirmed to be unrelated to MH370!


So what was it exactly, because claim was made that it could not have come from any of the search ships?


And it didn't! I think they would know if their ships were leaking.

You said that the Aussies planted it there.


No, that's not what I said. Now, you claim to comprehend the English language well, so go back and read what I've said in the context it was written in....please.

Now, since it was not even Jet Fuel, how can it be planted? If it was Jet Fuel, I would have made the claim that it was planted, most likely by the Aussies, but now, its all academic.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:05 pm

Kikapu wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Oil Sample confirmed to be unrelated to MH370!


So what was it exactly, because claim was made that it could not have come from any of the search ships?


And it didn't! I think they would know if their ships were leaking.

You said that the Aussies planted it there.


No, that's not what I said. Now, you claim to comprehend the English language well, so go back and read what I've said in the context it was written in....please.

Now, since it was not even Jet Fuel, how can it be planted? If it was Jet Fuel, I would have made the claim that it was planted, most likely by the Aussies, but now, its all academic.


I told you many times that there is no way the Aussies would even consider planting Jet A1 or other evidence in the ocean. It doesn't make any sense because they will not have an escape clause or be able to abandon the search.

I understand what you said completely and it was just ridiculous!
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:09 pm

And one more thing! The Australians never claimed that the slick was Jet Fuel.

All they said is they had a possible lead since they found an oil slick and that the substances will need to be analyzed to see whether it is related to MH370. They did that and ruled out any connection to MH370 and promptly communicated this.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:17 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Expect and understand what? Their announcement that the "plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and everyone is dead" without presenting the slightest of evidence"?


What is it they want to know?


eeerm... the evidence that lead them to the conclusion that the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and everyone is dead :!:

Also related to that -->

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/17/world ... hpt=ias_c2

"We will request their team of experts to come to Beijing to conduct face-to-face communications and fulfill their commitment," said Jing Hui, a spokesman for some of the families. "What is the truth? What problem do they want to cover up?"

The families have 26 questions they want answered. They included requests for shared evidence, including the flight's logbook and recording of air traffic control the night the plane disappeared.


They have already revealed enough about that.

They will have to wait for the investigators to do their job and everything will be published in great detail.


Actually they revealed nothing to support their claim that "the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and everyone is dead" other than
relying their announcement on the fact that a satellite spotted some 123 objects floating in very close proximity to Inmarsats lines, which later proved to be garbage, and later on proved to be far away from the beacons beeps :!:
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:27 pm

Paphitis do you remember your excitement when they found that slick telling us how fast the HMAS Toshiba or whatever was running to take it for analysis running as fast as what 47(?) knots then delivering the stuff to some chopper etc etc?
When all evidence and logical arguments pointed to the impossibility of the fact? :wink:

In fact you are all excitements even from the times the satellites were spotting erm... ..... garbage.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:28 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Expect and understand what? Their announcement that the "plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and everyone is dead" without presenting the slightest of evidence"?


What is it they want to know?


eeerm... the evidence that lead them to the conclusion that the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and everyone is dead :!:

Also related to that -->

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/17/world ... hpt=ias_c2

"We will request their team of experts to come to Beijing to conduct face-to-face communications and fulfill their commitment," said Jing Hui, a spokesman for some of the families. "What is the truth? What problem do they want to cover up?"

The families have 26 questions they want answered. They included requests for shared evidence, including the flight's logbook and recording of air traffic control the night the plane disappeared.


They have already revealed enough about that.

They will have to wait for the investigators to do their job and everything will be published in great detail.


Actually they revealed nothing to support their claim that "the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and everyone is dead" other than
relying their announcement on the fact that a satellite spotted some 123 objects floating in very close proximity to Inmarsats lines, which later proved to be garbage, and later on proved to be far away from the beacons beeps :!:


Most of the Satellite Images were a dead end. All debris were found to be unrelated to MH370.

The only evidence to support the conclusions aside from common sense, are the Inmarsat Handshake Pings and the calculations from Aircraft Performance Analysts and Performance Engineers.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:32 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Paphitis do you remember your excitement when they found that slick telling us how fast the HMAS Toshiba or whatever was running to take it for analysis running as fast as what 47(?) knots then delivering the stuff to some chopper etc etc?
When all evidence and logical arguments pointed to the impossibility of the fact? :wink:

In fact you are all but excitements even from the times the satellites were spotting erm... ..... garbage.


Of course I was excited. But not at any stage did I say that it was Jet Fuel.

All I said is that it might be and it will need to be analyzed.

I also like seeing the ADF doing a good job. The world is really noticing their professionalism and they have done a great job.

Whether they find it or not, I don't believe anyone can find any flaws with the way the Aussies have handled this difficult task.

Even spotting garbage from space is pretty damn impressive. This country never ceases to amaze me. Always they are capable of miracles so don't be too surprised if they find MH370.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:
The only evidence to support the conclusions aside from common sense, are the Inmarsat Handshake Pings and the calculations from Aircraft Performance Analysts and Performance Engineers.


Which are highly disputed and for which the Malaysian Government will eventually be sued.

http://marvinsthinking.blogspot.com/201 ... ocean.html
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:42 pm

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The only evidence to support the conclusions aside from common sense, are the Inmarsat Handshake Pings and the calculations from Aircraft Performance Analysts and Performance Engineers.


Which are highly disputed and for which the Malaysian Government will eventually be sued.

http://marvinsthinking.blogspot.com/201 ... ocean.html


Sued for what?

No the Inmarsat data is not disputed by experts from at least a dozen countries including China.
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