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[Paphitis]

You can monitor all the Search Ships here:

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home

The small area to the right is where HMAS Ocean Shield and HMS Echo are. This is the area where most of the signals have been detected and they have refined that area down to about a tenth the size of Cyprus and it falls directly over the top of the Satellite Handshake Arc.

The large area to the West is where they are looking for debris. The Chinese Ship that detected a signal is searching this area.

[boomerang]

Hiya pyro long time mate....


If it was a suicide mission what would have been the point of flying the opposite direction.... and if it was a suicide mission the pilot would have nose dived it from 38000feet reaching mach 10 turning it into a fireball... again debris would have littered the ocean... they will probably pin it on him with fabricated evidence.... but who fucking knows, he probably was in with the plotters...

You are right though we will never find out... the daily coverage is in drabs these days, it's slowly going off the radar... there will come a day when they say we found it but can't get to it because it's too deep... wait for it, it's coming...

Another point is don't you find it strange the NSA which monitors every phone call and every keystroke typed that they don't monitor every flight which is an easier task?... yeah right...


The whole affair stinks... thinking of the passengers though...I remember reading this sitting at Hong Kong airport catching a flight back home... and I am flying out this Sunday... man all this shit scares the bejezus out of you...

The NSA does not monitor every phone call or keystroke.

They have the ability to monitor phone calls and anyone's internet activities which is not the same as monitoring every phone call or keystroke. How is this possible?

of course they do...there are many ways they can do it..actually doing it...they use special software filtering all day...how do you think they classify people of interest...

[repulsewarrior]

Here is a website depicting all the oceanic currents if anyone is interested.

You can zoom in and out.

http://earth.nullschool.net/#2014/03/10 ... -19.00,801

...interesting.

[Paphitis]

Hiya pyro long time mate....


If it was a suicide mission what would have been the point of flying the opposite direction.... and if it was a suicide mission the pilot would have nose dived it from 38000feet reaching mach 10 turning it into a fireball... again debris would have littered the ocean... they will probably pin it on him with fabricated evidence.... but who fucking knows, he probably was in with the plotters...

You are right though we will never find out... the daily coverage is in drabs these days, it's slowly going off the radar... there will come a day when they say we found it but can't get to it because it's too deep... wait for it, it's coming...

Another point is don't you find it strange the NSA which monitors every phone call and every keystroke typed that they don't monitor every flight which is an easier task?... yeah right...


The whole affair stinks... thinking of the passengers though...I remember reading this sitting at Hong Kong airport catching a flight back home... and I am flying out this Sunday... man all this shit scares the bejezus out of you...

The NSA does not monitor every phone call or keystroke.

They have the ability to monitor phone calls and anyone's internet activities which is not the same as monitoring every phone call or keystroke. How is this possible?

of course they do...there are many ways they can do it..actually doing it...they use special software filtering all day...how do you think they classify people of interest...

Just like that but this is not the same as monitoring and listening to.

[Paphitis]

OK something very unusual has occurred.

The Australian PM has just made an announcement which conflicts with the official releases of Angus Houston who is coordinating the search.

He has stated that he is confident that the signals detected are from the Black Box of MH370 - something Angus Houston has been careful not to do.

He has also announced that he is about to leave for Beijing to have an urgent meeting with President Xi Jinping about MH370. This visit is unscheduled by all reports.

Australian PM has put himself out on a limb here. Would he do this without some knowledge not yet released? There is a lot of conjecture from the media that the Authorities are about to confirm the location of the Black Box after Australian PM meets with President Xi Jinping to personally brief him of the current status.

Interesting times ahead ...

[Paphitis]

OK it definately looks like a very significant announcement is about be be made after Australian PM arrives in Beijing!

Unconfirmed report says Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 black box has been found

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 6880483186

[Paphitis]

OK some information has surfaced that the search area for the Black Box has been refined down to 600 sq kms - about one twentieth the size of Cyprus.

Some additional information has also surfaced that the location of the Black Box has been pinpointed to an area of 4 sq kms but this has not been confirmed yet.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/mh_black_ ... LAaxC7ETpM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-11/a ... ox/5384164

Hold on to your hats people.

And yes they are using triangulation.

[Pyrpolizer]

And…the latest news in this world of misinformation;
Lots of equipment use exactly the same frequency as black boxes.

# Diving equipment



http://uncw.edu/nurc/systems/toolmanual/beacon.pdf

NURC-UNCW has a variety of acoustic pinger beacons available for use. Helle
27XX pingers are available in 27 or 37 kHz frequencies for deployment of equipment to 6,000 feet seawater and have a battery life of one month.

Yes indeed. The area is a popular dive spot too!

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[Pyrpolizer]

@GIG.
Ok here’s how the signal should be heard when modified to become audible to the human ear. Sharp and irritating. The pitch is 10ms exact as per manufacturer’s specs. The audible pitch duration of the signal that the Australians published is at least 20 times as much, but this doesn’t mean anything given the huge amount of noise it contains.

http://www.2shared.com/audio/kM65_ti_/full.html

NB.To download the file press the small "download" button not the big one.

I had the good fortune to see a lot of the coverage from CNN - which I thought was absolutely superb.

They had an analyst from the FBI, FAA and the Air Transport Safety Board say that other noises are always detected by Sonar and that software is used to filter out different frequencies. They basically cancel out all other contaminating noises to be left with the specific frequency range they are looking for in this case 3.5 Khz.

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[Pyrpolizer]

Ahh, fresh again without too much distortion, back to our little Cypriot forum for some further information, meant for the few who could possibly understand it.

There has been a suspicion (at other forums) that the pings detected by the beacons might be fake because their pulse duration was way out of manufacturer’s specs.
In the end it was proven that without the original signal which by it’s very nature is not even audible to the human ear nobody can draw such conclusion.

a)the signal carries a huge amount of noise

Of copurse there is a large amount of noise. Ships, wildlife (whales, dolphins etc), Submarines, and who knows what else. They filter all the foreign frequencies out.

b)The pings in most instances occur at times the noise is more than the signal itself.

That is always the case when there is a big huge ship over the top.

c)The signal can only be analyzed using specialized software whose spectrogram and audible sounds (as published on video by the Australians) are nothing but an aid to the user of the software.

Yes they do have specialized software specifically designed for this kind of thing.

d)the frequency of the signal as announced is 32.3 Khz instead of the expected 37.5 Khz .This is a big difference by all accounts.

The ELTs change frequency as the batteries get weaker and the signal itself is distorted by a number of environmental factors including water. The Auithorities have already discussed that in detail.

e)It might be impossible to confirm the pitch of the signal with all that distortion even by the analyzer of the original signal using special software. The pitch of the signal together with the frequency and the time intervals are the 3 parameters required to verify beyond any reasonable doubt that it comes from a black box.

They have already looked at all the parameters they need.

f)The Doppler effect principle cannot be used because of the unknown effects of the media (which in this case is water) the background noise, and the huge frequency shift mentioned in "d"

I will leave this to scientists. They are however looking at how the signal fades in and out to gauge possible distance.

g)one set of pings comes at intervals of 1.06 secs which leads to the conclusion they originate from a man made source

Which makes it consistent with a Black Box.

h)There is another set of pings that show up randomly, whose timing is totally irrelevant to the 1.06 multiples

Anything outside this parameter could be a false positive.

i)The frequency of the audible sound that they published ranges from a few Hz to about 20Kz and that is strange.

Anything outside the 3 to 4 KHz range is filtered out.

Because of the above it is possible the pings are the result of harmonics from man made sources other than the MH370 Black boxes.

What man made harmonics?

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