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[Paphitis]

How about the white objects in the area?

They would be looking for those as well, but all attention is focused on the 2 Acoustic Events that are 300 nms apart.

Doesn't the Black Box send out its signals continuously as long as the battery is active? Why is everyone getting excited about 2 or 3 pings received by the Chinese just by accident so far away from the so called possible crash site and then by the Aussies over a long periods apart?

They have picked up 37.5Khz pings or pulses that are 1 second apart which is what you would expect from an ELT. The Chinese Acoustic Event is exactly right on the Inmarsat Arc, and the latest calculations place this location as the most likely position of entry. The Chinese have picked it up twice already in positions only 2 kms apart. The Australian Acoustic Event is 300 nms away. It's exciting because these are positive developments which need to be investigated as a priority. Also, as the ship moves over the top of an ELT, you would expect the pings to fade away.

What if a submarine has intentionally sent out these acoustics as the same frequency as the Black Box just to keep the search in the South Indian Ocean away from the real crash site, wherever that may be? Lets face it, there has been nothing transparent about the MH370 from day 1, therefore, and I for one am very suspicious from any so-called "new evidence"? So far it has been one crap after another as if to let time pass by intentionally and then declare MH370 is lost forever in the South Indian Ocean without a single shred of evidence.

Yeh no worries. With so may Australian, Kiwi, US P3 Orion and P8 Poseidon in the area, I think all the entire Russian Nuclear Submarine Fleet will be on leave from the Indian Ocean. The only known Submarine in the area is British. Any submarine trying to sneak around would be running the gauntlet because the worlds best Submarine Hunters/Killers are out in force looking for MH370.

I disagree with you Kikapu. I am not at all as cynical about MH370 because I know that the number 1 priority is to find the wrechage and its Black Box. The Australian SAR Coordination Centre has been excellent, and revealed the facts they need to without jeopardizing the investigation (which is a criminal one from all reports) or effecting the psychology of the victim's families.

The way things work when a plane crashes into the sea is, first you find the crash evidence like bodies and floating material from the crashed plane and then you try to locate the signals from the Black Box and recover and not the other way around.

Most of the ships carry Sonar and are able to listen for the Black Box and they have been doing just that from Day 1 whilst trying to retrieve debris. The number 1 focus right now is to investigate the 2 Acoustic Events.

Btw, have they found that very large 12m x 24m piece yet that the Australian satellite spotted 3 weeks ago, or at least recorded it's coordinates by now?

Maybe they have. But it is completely unrelated to MH370 and the focus is a fair way further north at Latitude 25S.

[Kikapu]

How about the white objects in the area?

They would be looking for those as well, but all attention is focused on the 2 Acoustic Events that are 300 nms apart.

Doesn't the Black Box send out its signals continuously as long as the battery is active? Why is everyone getting excited about 2 or 3 pings received by the Chinese just by accident so far away from the so called possible crash site and then by the Aussies over a long periods apart?

They have picked up 37.5Khz pings or pulses that are 1 second apart. The Chinese Acoustic Event is exactly right on the Inmarsat Arc, and the latest calculations place this location as the most likely position of entry. The Chinese have picked it up twice already in positions only 2 kms apart. The Australian Acoustic Event is 300 nms away. It's exciting because these are positive developments which need to be investigated as a priority.

What if a submarine has intentionally sent out these acoustics as the same frequency as the Black Box just to keep the search in the South Indian Ocean away from the real crash site, wherever that may be? Lets face it, there has been nothing transparent about the MH370 from day 1, therefore, and I for one am very suspicious from any so-called "new evidence"? So far it has been one crap after another as if to let time pass by intentionally and then declare MH370 is lost forever in the South Indian Ocean without a single shred of evidence.

Yeh no worries. With so may Australian, Kiwi, US P3 Orion and P8 Poseidon in the area, I think all the entire Russian Nuclear Submarine Fleet will be on leave from the Indian Ocean. The only known Submarine in the area is British. Any submarine trying to sneak around would be running the gauntlet because the worlds best Submarine Hunters/Killers are out in force looking for MH370.

I disagree with you Kikapu. I am not at all as cynical about MH370 because I know that the number 1 priority is to find the wrechage and its Black Box. The Australian SAR Coordination Centre has been excellent, and revealed the facts they need to without jeopardizing the investigation or effecting the psychology of the victim's families.

The way things work when a plane crashes into the sea is, first you find the crash evidence like bodies and floating material from the crashed plane and then you try to locate the signals from the Black Box and recover and not the other way around.

Most of the ships carry Sonar and are able to listen for the Black Box and they have been doing just that from Day 1 whilst trying to retrieve debris. The number 1 focus right now is to investigate the 2 Acoustic Events.

Btw, have they found that very large 12m x 24m piece yet that the Australian satellite spotted 3 weeks ago, or at least recorded it's coordinates by now?

Maybe they have. But it is completely unrelated to MH370 and the focus is a fair way further north at Latitude 25S.

I hope you are right my friend, but even you have been disappointed at times, with reports that has been contrary to what you have believed to have been something else from the early days of this case.

[Paphitis]

Oh and damn those Americans for being able to get one of their Submarines under the Chinese and Australian Ships as well as evade all the Orions to transmit this bogus signal.

Is there anything they can't do?

Even HMAS Toowoomba is there and that ship prides itself on Anti Submarine Warfare.

[Paphitis]

How about the white objects in the area?

They would be looking for those as well, but all attention is focused on the 2 Acoustic Events that are 300 nms apart.

Doesn't the Black Box send out its signals continuously as long as the battery is active? Why is everyone getting excited about 2 or 3 pings received by the Chinese just by accident so far away from the so called possible crash site and then by the Aussies over a long periods apart?

They have picked up 37.5Khz pings or pulses that are 1 second apart. The Chinese Acoustic Event is exactly right on the Inmarsat Arc, and the latest calculations place this location as the most likely position of entry. The Chinese have picked it up twice already in positions only 2 kms apart. The Australian Acoustic Event is 300 nms away. It's exciting because these are positive developments which need to be investigated as a priority.

What if a submarine has intentionally sent out these acoustics as the same frequency as the Black Box just to keep the search in the South Indian Ocean away from the real crash site, wherever that may be? Lets face it, there has been nothing transparent about the MH370 from day 1, therefore, and I for one am very suspicious from any so-called "new evidence"? So far it has been one crap after another as if to let time pass by intentionally and then declare MH370 is lost forever in the South Indian Ocean without a single shred of evidence.

Yeh no worries. With so may Australian, Kiwi, US P3 Orion and P8 Poseidon in the area, I think all the entire Russian Nuclear Submarine Fleet will be on leave from the Indian Ocean. The only known Submarine in the area is British. Any submarine trying to sneak around would be running the gauntlet because the worlds best Submarine Hunters/Killers are out in force looking for MH370.

I disagree with you Kikapu. I am not at all as cynical about MH370 because I know that the number 1 priority is to find the wrechage and its Black Box. The Australian SAR Coordination Centre has been excellent, and revealed the facts they need to without jeopardizing the investigation or effecting the psychology of the victim's families.

The way things work when a plane crashes into the sea is, first you find the crash evidence like bodies and floating material from the crashed plane and then you try to locate the signals from the Black Box and recover and not the other way around.

Most of the ships carry Sonar and are able to listen for the Black Box and they have been doing just that from Day 1 whilst trying to retrieve debris. The number 1 focus right now is to investigate the 2 Acoustic Events.

Btw, have they found that very large 12m x 24m piece yet that the Australian satellite spotted 3 weeks ago, or at least recorded it's coordinates by now?

Maybe they have. But it is completely unrelated to MH370 and the focus is a fair way further north at Latitude 25S.

I hope you are right my friend, but even you have been disappointed at times, with reports that has been contrary to what you have believed to have been something else from the early days of this case.

I don't believe that there have been any contradictory reports.

The authorities said from the beginning that MH370 could have crashed anywhere along the Southern Arc. The Southern most search areas is where Aircraft Performance Analysts believed MH370 would have exhausted all its fuel. All the calculations made assumptions about the aircraft's speed, and Flight Level hence the first revision northwards when they factored in the faster speed.

[Paphitis]

Also, if the 2 Acoustic Events are proven to be unrelated to MH370, then be prepared for the possibility of this search for MH370 to go on for years.

The Australian Government has indicated that they will throw all their resources into finding MH370 and they refuse to put a time limit on the effort, and they have US backing. The Chinese might also be in it for the long haul because most of the passengers were Chinese Citizens.

The Search could run into the Billions, and potentially, there may only be 3 countries financing it - Australia (obligated under International SAR Treaties), US (who have always been helpful) and China (for political reasons).

[supporttheunderdog]

Just came across the following ...


..http://worldobserveronline.com/2014/04/05/freelance-journalist-hijacked-flight-370-passenger-sent-photo-hidden-iphone-tracing-back-secret-u-s-military-base-diego-garcia/

Passed on as read and strictly without endorsement of any sort....

[Pyrpolizer]

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsGraphics/sta ... 04/photo/1

600 Km from each other??
And pinging for only 90 secs??

[Paphitis]

The Australian Acoustic event is the most encouraging. HMAS has detected 2 separate signals in close proximity. The Black Box has 2 ELTs. They Australian Ship managed to stay on the signal for several minutes.

Looks like it is very promising.

HMS Echo is also in the area mapping the ocean floor.

The pulse is actually constant but fades in and out as the ship travels over the top of the source.

[Paphitis]

Correction: HMAS Ocean Shield has detected the signal and maintained it for over 2 hours and 20 minutes and CNN reported that 2 ELT Beacons were detected in very close proximity.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... in-hussein

Malaysian Minister for Transport has stated that positive identification may be possible within days if not within hours after discussions with Angus Houston.

[apc2010]

The captain of a Chinese search vessel has reported a signal possibly from Flight MH370.........




Ping Ping Ping......



says he definitely heard something...............