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[Pyrpolizer]

No I would have to disagree.

Firstly the numbers have been released to a number of countries including Australia and China.

That is where they should remain for now. I do not believe the public has a right to know at this stage because the media scrum that would follow would just bring lots of tears to all involved and it will never help the relatives in the slightest. The relatives want hard evidence not some Doppler Shift calculations that most would find hard to comprehend.

They will be released in due course!

Says who? If this thing happened in America the data would be all over the internet by now because the lawyers would already have got court orders for subpoenas.

No they would not!

Because at this stage the information would be strictly classified and no lawyer in the States or Australia would be able to circumvent this.

Even in 911 the US authorities withheld information for months and that was understandable.

May I remind you that the Malaysian Authorities already concluded the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and there are no survivors?
This automatically gives the relatives the right to get it legally.

[Paphitis]

Here’s a clue for you Paphitis. You don’t kill everyone on board to go commit suicide there after.
You kill them because you need the plane itself and possibly what it was carrying. Take it from here if you can :wink:

Take it from me! The aircraft did not land because if it did we would all know where it is by now!

This is something everyone I know, finds laughable!

You find me an aerodrome capable of taking a B777 where this thing can land undetected.

I expect Google Earth images of the runway and possible flight paths!

Where did I say that it landed?
Is this the best you can do from the hints I gave you above? Let me highlight them in red for you.

And what good is that if you can't land and get away with the loot?

My God Pyro! You've lost it!

I don't know what they had in mind of doing. When you do something like that you take risks. I have absolutely no idea whether they succeeded or they failed. And who talked about loot? I talked about contents. Why do you assume contents means "loot" ?

Well Pyro I took the effort to explain a completely plausible scenario, one subscribed to by most Pilots if you ask them the right questions.

What is your scenario? I can't read riddles, sorry!

One more thing, did the Chinese get the numbers? I am sure they have because they did DEMAND them after all. If they did not they might have sunk all the Australian, and American Ships.

Why won't they release the numbers? I bet its because the Chinese relatives would run riot in Beijing!

[Paphitis]

No I would have to disagree.

Firstly the numbers have been released to a number of countries including Australia and China.

That is where they should remain for now. I do not believe the public has a right to know at this stage because the media scrum that would follow would just bring lots of tears to all involved and it will never help the relatives in the slightest. The relatives want hard evidence not some Doppler Shift calculations that most would find hard to comprehend.

They will be released in due course!

Says who? If this thing happened in America the data would be all over the internet by now because the lawyers would already have got court orders for subpoenas.

No they would not!

Because at this stage the information would be strictly classified and no lawyer in the States or Australia would be able to circumvent this.

Even in 911 the US authorities withheld information for months and that was understandable.

May I remind you that the Malaysian Authorities already concluded the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean and there are no survivors?
This automatically gives the relatives the right to get it legally.

The relatives will get all the information when the time is right. Not now!

[Paphitis]

Latest update from the AMSA website finally!

Update 30

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/documents ... date30.pdf

Objects recovered so far believed to be flotsam.

Many objects detected by multiple aircraft!

[Pyrpolizer]

Latest update from the AMSA website finally!

Update 30

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/documents ... date30.pdf

Objects recovered so far believed to be flotsam.

Many objects detected by multiple aircraft!

The objects have been examined on the ships and are not believed to be related to MH370. The objects have been described as fishing equipment and other flotsam.


And this is what you will be hearing for the next 8 days Paphitis. Sorry for burring your expectations, it's not my fault.

[Paphitis]

Latest update from the AMSA website finally!

Update 30

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/documents ... date30.pdf

Objects recovered so far believed to be flotsam.

Many objects detected by multiple aircraft!

The objects have been examined on the ships and are not believed to be related to MH370. The objects have been described as fishing equipment and other flotsam.


And this is what you will be hearing for the next 8 days Paphitis. Sorry for burring your expectations, it's not my fault.

I don't believe this at all Pyro! You will see.

I have no doubt they are onto it. The Australian Orion Crews are fantastic. Aircraft have spotted hundreds of objects and they know from the Satellite Imagery that it is not flotsam. They would have made oceanic comparisons.

They will find floating debris guaranteed!

Just be patient. One more thing, they will stay out there for a lot longer than 8 days. In fact, they are still ramping up their operations. More planes and more ships.

So don't worry about my expectations! Don't be too disappointed when they retrieve a spoiler or wing section measuring 23m.

[Pyrpolizer]

That's how the number of days will look like when that 23 m wing gets recovered.

[Paphitis]

That's impossible!

The plane has crashed! Therefore there is debris!

Which means it will be found 100% because aircraft just don't vanish.

[Pyrpolizer]

That’s a very strange logic to say the least. You are jumping into conclusions, in fact the conclusions you wish they were the truth.

At the moment we are the stage that they have not found any debris. Two possibilities from there a)the plane did not crash b)the plane crashed but they cannot find the debris.
If they eventually find debris then they have to confirm it to belong to that plane. If this happens then there are other 2 possibilities a)the plane crashed by itself or b)the plane was shot down. If b is excluded from scientific analysis then there are the following possibilities a)The plane was driven to it’s final destination a)by the original pilots b)by someone else or c)by autopilot
If c is correct there are other possibilities a) the one who programmed it parachuted himself out of the plane early enough b) stayed in the plane to die.

You will remain the last person on earth dear Paphitis, who trusts governments, corporations, entities etc while at the same time history taught us the opposite. I would suggest you come living anywhere in the EU, and invest your lifetime’s savings in "quaranteed" by the EU bonds.

NB. Please don’t jump up once again with exciting news like "oh they found it- 10 Orions are heading to the scene-30 ships on the way"

[Pyrpolizer]

Mr Hussein said: "Time is running out as far as signals from the black box are concerned. That is if it is in the Indian Ocean."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... z2xXWf8tkF