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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 03, 2014 2:32 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:On a side note:
There are Cargo planes and passenger planes.
Different rules apply for Hazardous Cargo on each one.
Regulations say that if those rules are followed then the risk is (not zero, it can never be zero) but minimal.
Would you honestly accept to travel with your family on a passenger plane knowing for example that it carries explosives even if those explosives were carried according to the strictest safety rules?

So there come the RIGHTS of the customer.
Imo it is not enough that only the Captain knows the presence of dangerous cargo on his passenger plane.
When a passenger PAYS he has EVERY RIGHT to know if there is dangerous cargo included in the same flight and make his own choice whether s/he wishes to get in there or not.
Personally I would not even take a bus knowing it carries for example explosives.
Therefore Airlines should be forced to ABIDE to this very specific CUSTOMER RIGHT.


Done it a hundred times. Been on aircraft with explosives, radioactive materials, Lithium, corrosives, and even with the most venomous snakes on the planet in eskies (they are not a DG).

And I guarantee you, that every flight you have been on has had 1 or more of the above in every flight you have been on. In fact, you would be hard pressed to find a flight without consigned DG. Airlines Madame a lot of money from freight.

I don't have a problem to be honest. My 3 year olds have already been on half a dozen flights already. Much safer it is for them than the family car or going to school.


You might not have a problem but I do, and I am sure thousands of other people do. It's just a matter of time before people claim their RIGHTS.


That's fine. Then don't travel on aircraft.

They will never inform you what they carrying and you don't have a right to know either.

And more often than not, they will be carrying something!

You are much better off speeding in your car after a tziporo or 2 or a few! :lol:

The law is what it is and you got bigger all chance of changing it.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat May 03, 2014 3:12 pm

As long as you choose to be a moribund that's fine with me :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat May 03, 2014 3:14 pm

Still waiting for your "expert" answers... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 03, 2014 3:30 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Still waiting for your "expert" answers... :lol: :lol: :lol:


What us it you want to know?

Make your questions concise or clear otherwise I can't help you.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 03, 2014 3:32 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:As long as you choose to be a moribund that's fine with me :lol: :lol: :lol:


I am just honest and provide the facts. Freight is an important aspect and DG Regulations are very strict and there are many controls in place. Aviation is the safest mode of transport.

If you think Aviation is not safe because of DGs then stop flying. Fact is it is the passengers with their undeclared DG that pose the highest risk.

And let's not forget the 70 tonnes of JET A1 on board. That is a DG as well.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 04, 2014 12:08 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:On a side note:
There are Cargo planes and passenger planes.
Different rules apply for Hazardous Cargo on each one.
Regulations say that if those rules are followed then the risk is (not zero, it can never be zero) but minimal.
Would you honestly accept to travel with your family on a passenger plane knowing for example that it carries explosives even if those explosives were carried according to the strictest safety rules?

So there come the RIGHTS of the customer.
Imo it is not enough that only the Captain knows the presence of dangerous cargo on his passenger plane.
When a passenger PAYS he has EVERY RIGHT to know if there is dangerous cargo included in the same flight and make his own choice whether s/he wishes to get in there or not.
Personally I would not even take a bus knowing it carries for example explosives.
Therefore Airlines should be forced to ABIDE to this very specific CUSTOMER RIGHT.


Sorry I just saw this and I will reply.

Passengers want cheap fares and they want to know if there are DGs do they? Well, sorry, you can't have it both ways. Fact is airlines make their crust from freight. It is more profitable than passengers.

No you do not have ANY right to know the Airline's business and the freight they are carrying whether they be a DG or non DG. Also, the airline has a right to refuse you entry on their aircraft.

So if you cut into their Freight Profits then it is you and all the other passengers that will need to wear it. That means they can put their fares up.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 04, 2014 1:40 pm

OK there are some very BIG developments.

11 Al Qaeda Militants have been arrested and are now being questioned about the disappearance of MH370.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 21590.html

Now these reports remain unconfirmed an no one knows what evidence exists but it appears that Terrorism is very high on the IIT agenda.

Apparently, Al Qaeda has been very active in Malaysia according to the Malaysian Special Branch.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon May 05, 2014 3:01 pm

Confidence misplaced: All data to be re-checked.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... ch-widened

Time to replace some of those reckless decision-makers?
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 06, 2014 4:58 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Confidence misplaced: All data to be re-checked.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... ch-widened

Time to replace some of those reckless decision-makers?


There was no mention at all that the data is inaccurate. Audits would be something you would expect to occur from time to time so there is nothing unusual in this.

Also, the search area is 56000 sq kms and contractors will be employed to search every sq inch of the ocean floor within that area. The 700 sq km search area around the 4 detections is in the middle of this larger area and they seem convinced that MH370 is located here, the problem is finding it 4500m or more below the surface. Not an easy task at all. In fact this is the most difficult search in history.

The fortunate thing is, the search area is within Australia's SAR zone. Australia has the best trained military in the world, with very unique and strategic capabilities in this area. It is also a country that is able to draw upon any assistance from the best the US, Canada, UK and NZ have to offer. Australia also has very unique and close relations with China and Japan and can draw on their massive resources. Also, it can draw on the experiences and expertise of the French when they had to search for AF447. But, it can't be sacked as they have complete legal jurisdiction on the area under international treaties and no one in their right mind would ever contemplate such a thing because Australia has been the best thing that happened in the whole MH370 saga and that is something that is widely accepted by dozens of countries and all countries involved in the search. It is a fact that at times Australian Technologies in Defence are more superior to anything the Americans have. In fact, if you do your research, the US Military have Australian Technologies which are at the cutting edge. It always packs a punch well beyond its weight and personally, I believe they are aware of things which have not been released to the public. If MH370 is connected to Terrorism, then the target may well have been Australia. It is interesting how MH370 was possibly headed for the Harold E Holt military base. It would never have been able to make it. Australian Air Defence is the most superior in the world due to the vastness of the area. There is nothing in Europe or North America that can compare. So much so, that American Stealth Technologies such as the B2 and F22 are tested against Australia's Air Defence Network. One time 5 US prototypes took off from the Philippines and headed for Australia. The intention was to enter Australian Airspace without being detected. The aircraft were contacted by Australian ATC and asked to squawk a code for clearance to enter Australian Airspace and would also identify them. The American aircraft would not reply. The ADF then contacted the Pentagon to ask them if they had any jets in the area. They replied with a negative. Moments later, the US had a change of heart. They called the ADF and notified them that they were testing the B2 and F22 Raptor. The Americans ordered their aircraft to identify and squawk as they feared their aircraft being shot down.

Without a doubt, Australia is the best country to be leading this effort and that is a fact that is recognized around the globe.

I am very confident that they will find MH370, but it will take time. I am also led to believe that they are by no means finished with the detections. They are going into the next phase which involves private contractual agreements with firms that possess the most advance technologies on the planet.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Kikapu » Wed May 14, 2014 9:29 am

Haven't heard anything on MH370 lately. Has it been found already or what? :roll:

Actually, I'm still interested to know whether or not the Aussies, the much praised by our good friend Paphitis as being best in the world in what ever they do, have found that floating debris seen by their satellite that was 12m x 24m in the Southern Indian Ocean almost 2 months ago! :wink:

The question also still stands, and that is, how is it possible that a large jetliner completely disappear with over 200 people aboard in this day and age?

Surely common sense says, that the plane landing somewhere and hidden or shot down for entering into sensitive military areas is much more a possibility than it crashing somewhere on a suicide mission, considering the MH370's circumstances that it was deliberately removed from being traced by anyone on the ground after an hour into it's flight, because, the likelihood of finding the crash site, even if it was on a suicide mission, would have been much easier to find than if it was shot down at a military zone or hidden on the ground after landing safely, no?
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