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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:04 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Are you living abroad Maximus or here in Cyprus? I need to know to be able to understand your views and reply accordingly.And yes I will analyse "sharing" after that.
Just a preliminary reply:
I don't think the majority of Kibrislis believes the so called "trnc" is anything else other than an administrative structure.
It's not the administrative structure (of the so called "trnc") that bothers us.I mean what's wrong in having schools, teachers, police,courts of justice etc? It the the ILLEGAL BASIS of the so called "trnc" that bothers us. Which we all know extends from athnic cleansing of the Kypreoi, theft on their properties, to flooding the place with illegal settlers, looting of heritage and churches etc etc.
Any Kibrisli who subscribes to this is not welcome by me either.

The basic administrative structure of The Kibrislis will stay even after a solution,even if that solution were for a Unitary state even if it were their return in the RoC system. It is the GOVERNING LAW that will change, the CONSTITUTION, the BASIS for all other laws.


...again, i stress, and i hope you will agree because you speak as though a Turkish Constituency does exist, as well as a Republic, where is the Greek Constituency? truly, if we are speaking of reform, if we are Cypriots first, proud of the diversity we are, and who seek to sustain it, why not (where are the) others? Bicommunal, (and Bizonal, for that matter) does not mean tearing the island in two. if anything, it means, even described in many parts, the island remains a functioning whole. for a Greek Flag (and others) to fly in Cyprus, one Flag must fly higher; it is obvious, even with the achievements of Greek Cypriots, (who are the overwhelming majority of the population), to date, that without a Greek Constituency, Cypriot as a state of mind, and Cyprus as a State, will remain impotent.

seriously, kikapu's plan is a BBF, mine is too, and as Human beings, (or as Cypriots, or as the identity you choose as a Person rather than an Individual), if we want "this" to stop, new thinking is needed from every one of us, something better than what is/was, an attitude of mind, an intention where we can act (together) accordingly. setting the record straight has nothing to do with counting the dead (and horse trading), it has everything to do with Grace; and if we fight among ourselves, we fail them: Lest we Forget.
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:22 pm

Repulse,

These constituencies? do they need to have their own designated areas or can they just exist in the wider periphery?

Does it have to be a Bi-zonal Bi- communal Federation or can we as humans exist in Cyprus, just in a Bi-communal Federation?

Why cant it just be Cyprus?
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:22 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: Are you for real we are joint owner of 100% Cyprus, didnt anyone bother to tell you?


And so are the Kypreoi VP. So how come they are denied their human rights/properties/homes/ in 37% of Cyprus?
Could it be because your community trusted a foreign country for it's well being, and can't find a way out of the mess it created?


Lets not go there Pyro, I did say "we" but when you think about it we have lost 63% and all for your enosis dream....our differences have still not been bridged thats why the current situation continues...you have to accept 50% of the blame and move forward.
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:25 pm

Maximus wrote:Repulse,

These constituencies? do they need to have their own designated areas or can they just exist in the wider periphery?

Does it have to be a Bi-zonal Bi- communal Federation or can we as humans exist in Cyprus, just in a Bi-communal Federation?

Why cant it just be Cyprus?


Try asking your eoka leaders and the GCs enosis dream.....that ship sailed a long time ago, Cyprus changed forever in 1974 time to accept and move forward.
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: Are you for real we are joint owner of 100% Cyprus, didnt anyone bother to tell you?


And so are the Kypreoi VP. So how come they are denied their human rights/properties/homes/ in 37% of Cyprus?
Could it be because your community trusted a foreign country for it's well being, and can't find a way out of the mess it created?


Lets not go there Pyro, I did say "we" but when you think about it we have lost 63% and all for your enosis dream....our differences have still not been bridged thats why the current situation continues...you have to accept 50% of the blame and move forward.


Fair enough.
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:42 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: Are you for real we are joint owner of 100% Cyprus, didnt anyone bother to tell you?


And so are the Kypreoi VP. So how come they are denied their human rights/properties/homes/ in 37% of Cyprus?
Could it be because your community trusted a foreign country for it's well being, and can't find a way out of the mess it created?


Lets not go there Pyro, I did say "we" but when you think about it we have lost 63% and all for your enosis dream....our differences have still not been bridged thats why the current situation continues...you have to accept 50% of the blame and move forward.


Fair enough.


No, not fair enough. They have not lost 63% of anything. Your playing right into his hands Pyro while he worms away from facing the truth. This thread is about violent taksim and his excuse is ideological 'vote' for enosis. Accepting 50% of the blame does not set the record straight or cover the cost moving forwards.

Have they lost human rights/properties/homes/ in 63% or even 100% of Cyprus? Did they ever lose any of these?
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:Repulse,

These constituencies? do they need to have their own designated areas or can they just exist in the wider periphery?

Does it have to be a Bi-zonal Bi- communal Federation or can we as humans exist in Cyprus, just in a Bi-communal Federation?

Why cant it just be Cyprus?


Try asking your eoka leaders and the GCs enosis dream.....that ship sailed a long time ago, Cyprus changed forever in 1974 time to accept and move forward.


Oh spirit of the GCs enosis dream, where are theeee? Ask the eoka leaders about Viewpoints 100% ownership papers.

Yes eoka leaders of the enosis dream, we hear theeee. WHAT? his papers are riding shotgun in cargo with the bananas.........
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:06 am

Maximus wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: Are you for real we are joint owner of 100% Cyprus, didnt anyone bother to tell you?


And so are the Kypreoi VP. So how come they are denied their human rights/properties/homes/ in 37% of Cyprus?
Could it be because your community trusted a foreign country for it's well being, and can't find a way out of the mess it created?


Lets not go there Pyro, I did say "we" but when you think about it we have lost 63% and all for your enosis dream....our differences have still not been bridged thats why the current situation continues...you have to accept 50% of the blame and move forward.


Fair enough.


No, not fair enough. They have not lost 63% of anything. Your playing right into his hands Pyro while he worms away from facing the truth. This thread is about violent taksim and his excuse is ideological 'vote' for enosis. Accepting 50% of the blame does not set the record straight or cover the cost moving forwards.

Have they lost human rights/properties/homes/ in 63% or even 100% of Cyprus? Did they ever lose any of these?


How old are you? your responses are very imature, of course TCs own Cyprus together with GCs, you really need to understand this very important issue, we have just as much right to Cyprus as you do. Do you agree?
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:10 am

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:Repulse,

These constituencies? do they need to have their own designated areas or can they just exist in the wider periphery?

Does it have to be a Bi-zonal Bi- communal Federation or can we as humans exist in Cyprus, just in a Bi-communal Federation?

Why cant it just be Cyprus?


Try asking your eoka leaders and the GCs enosis dream.....that ship sailed a long time ago, Cyprus changed forever in 1974 time to accept and move forward.


Oh spirit of the GCs enosis dream, where are theeee? Ask the eoaka leaders about Viewpoints 100% ownership papers.

Yes eoka leaders of the enosis dream, we hear theeee. WHAT? his papers are riding shotgun in cargo with the bananas.........



You played with fire and got burned accept it and live with it. You really need to get a grip and comprehend that without your desire to give away the island to Greece we would not be divided today.
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Re: Setting the record straight over the events of 63-64

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:13 am

vp, you as a Cypriot may "own" Cyprus, but not as, as you say, a TC, but as an Individual. there is a big difference in that.
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