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If they wanted water the GC's could buy it from the cheapest partner but;

does everyone get their vote or do they share that with you too?

What about the gas? do you chip in or do they just share that with you too?

What about the EU, just share that with you too?

what about Varosha, are you going to share the expense or are they just going to share direct trade with you instead?

What about the haircut bailin/bailout debt, do you share that burden in equal proportion as an equal partner too?

Can you tell, how you will share Cyprus out too?

You should go do some research on how to share;

Water YES
Gas YES
EU YES
Varosha/Maraş YES
If you share our debt we will share yours YES
Which one do you not want to share?

water - probably not,
You missed one! - no vote.???
Gas - pay up and Turkey withdraws
EU - The TC's do not qualify yet
Varosha - Turkey should release it already and pay up
Property - give everything back.
Settlers and aliens - go back to Turkey
debt - put your money in the pot.
Cyprus - all of it.

Excuses excuses obviously you do not wnt to share, ho I forgot you must be a GC.

[Maximus]

But you said you are willing to share everything.

If you are paying attention all you have to do is ante your share.

Do you want to share their IQ too, because you are obviously a Turk and lacking. How about sharing a banana to go along with your share of their votes?

Pyro - Reasoning has limits and it seems to only end in "our" expense !

[Pyrpolizer]

But you said you are willing to share everything.

If you are paying attention all you have to do is ante your share.

Do you want to share their IQ too, because you are obviously a Turk and lacking. How about sharing a banana to go along with your share of their votes?

Pyro - Reasoning has limits and it seems to only end in "our" expense !

Far stretched my friend. I am not going to analyze what "sharing" would mean in a solution in the form of BBF. Just think of the average Kibrisli who is NOT a crook who gains on other peoples (kypreoi refugees i.e) loss.This person has absolutely no control to his future/prosperity/well being in his own Country. Turkey decides for him. And he is not stupid to see that this situation from the 60s to date actually burns his wings, his dreams the whatever much better he could achieve in his own country. It's quite reasonable to want to join the Kypreoi in a united Cyprus and join forces for a better future.The same way the Kypreoi enclaved would want the same. What's the difference between the Kypreoi enclaved and the Kibrislis? Nothing much, other than the fact that because of ethnic background we had some hostile encounters with the Kibrislis in the past. Other than that we are all one Nation and probably one race too.
Of course we ARE GOING TO SHARE everything. Good and bad.
And if you think it's all going to be on the Kypreoi's expense here's a hint:
The Kibrislis have ZERO National dept, because they are not a recognized country. How much is the National Dept of the RoC? How much do we owe the Troika? How much deep into dept is Bank of Cyprus?

[Maximus]

But you said you are willing to share everything.

If you are paying attention all you have to do is ante your share.

Do you want to share their IQ too, because you are obviously a Turk and lacking. How about sharing a banana to go along with your share of their votes?

Pyro - Reasoning has limits and it seems to only end in "our" expense !

Far stretched my friend. I am not going to analyze what "sharing" would mean in a solution in the form of BBF.

I think you should,

Just think of the average Kibrisli who is NOT a crook who gains on other peoples (kypreoi refugees i.e) loss.

REALLY? Where are they?

This person has absolutely no control to his future/prosperity/well being in his own Country. Turkey decides for him. And he is not stupid to see that this situation from the 60s to date actually burns his wings, his dreams the whatever much better he could achieve in his own country.

His country is the "TRNC"

It's quite reasonable to want to join the Kypreoi in a united Cyprus and join forces for a better future.

I think so too

The same way the Kypreoi enclaved would want the same. What's the difference between the Kypreoi enclaved and the Kibrislis?



Nothing much, other than the fact that because of ethnic background we had some hostile encounters with the Kibrislis in the past. Other than that we are all one Nation and probably one race too.



Of course we ARE GOING TO SHARE everything. Good and bad.

You should analyze what they mean by sharing

And if you think it's all going to be on the Kypreoi's expense here's a hint:
The Kibrislis have ZERO National dept, because they are not a recognized country. How much is the National Dept of the RoC? How much do we owe the Troika? How much deep into dept is Bank of Cyprus?

About 20 odd billion to the troika, Varosha needs money too. It also seems that there is going to be a massive amount needed for property compensation to add to the total so a Turkish national can live in it and preserve his potential equity gains. Plus the money's to 'upgrade' and fix the occupied areas. How much does this come to Pyro? have I missed something out from the financial perspective?

Are you sure you do not want to analyze what they mean by sharing and how much their share of this is actually going to be? Then ask if they are willing to be reasonable with you when the time comes to issue your share

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[Viewpoint]

But you said you are willing to share everything.

If you are paying attention all you have to do is ante your share.

Do you want to share their IQ too, because you are obviously a Turk and lacking. How about sharing a banana to go along with your share of their votes?

Pyro - Reasoning has limits and it seems to only end in "our" expense !

Your attitude tells us a lot about the lack of flexiblity to finding a solution shown by many GCs, we say share everything you start spouting sharing IQs and degrading Turks...how do you expect to make any progress? but of course we all know that you are not a supporter of BBF and sharing with TCs.

[Maximus]

But you said you are willing to share everything.

If you are paying attention all you have to do is ante your share.

Do you want to share their IQ too, because you are obviously a Turk and lacking. How about sharing a banana to go along with your share of their votes?

Pyro - Reasoning has limits and it seems to only end in "our" expense !

Your attitude tells us a lot about the lack of flexiblity to finding a solution shown by many GCs, we say share everything you start spouting sharing IQs and degrading Turks...how do you expect to make any progress? but of course we all know that you are not a supporter of BBF and sharing with TCs.

Do you want to share a banana?

[Viewpoint]

But you said you are willing to share everything.

If you are paying attention all you have to do is ante your share.

Do you want to share their IQ too, because you are obviously a Turk and lacking. How about sharing a banana to go along with your share of their votes?

Pyro - Reasoning has limits and it seems to only end in "our" expense !

Your attitude tells us a lot about the lack of flexiblity to finding a solution shown by many GCs, we say share everything you start spouting sharing IQs and degrading Turks...how do you expect to make any progress? but of course we all know that you are not a supporter of BBF and sharing with TCs.

Do you want to share a banana?

No thanks you need it more than I do.

[Maximus]

would you prefer a 50% share and a veto to become equal partners at the GC's expense instead?

[Pyrpolizer]

Are you living abroad Maximus or here in Cyprus? I need to know to be able to understand your views and reply accordingly.And yes I will analyse "sharing" after that.
Just a preliminary reply:
I don't think the majority of Kibrislis believes the so called "trnc" is anything else other than an administrative structure.
It's not the administrative structure (of the so called "trnc") that bothers us.I mean what's wrong in having schools, teachers, police,courts of justice etc? It the the ILLEGAL BASIS of the so called "trnc" that bothers us. Which we all know extends from athnic cleansing of the Kypreoi, theft on their properties, to flooding the place with illegal settlers, looting of heritage and churches etc etc.
Any Kibrisli who subscribes to this is not welcome by me either.

The basic administrative structure of The Kibrislis will stay even after a solution,even if that solution were for a Unitary state even if it were their return in the RoC system. It is the GOVERNING LAW that will change, the CONSTITUTION, the BASIS for all other laws.

[Maximus]

I live in Cyprus Pyro - but what difference does it make? Am I any less Cypriot in the case of living abroad or are my views any less valuable because of it?

Please calculate everything, then negotiate with your TC partners (like VP who, speaks for the average TC, his side kick bordo and that musky-jodu).

Then tell the rest of us Kypreoi what the shares are (intangible, tangible) and how much we have to pay.