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[Viewpoint]

Firstly admit your own, lets see how accepting you really are and how much you understand why Cyprus is divided today.

ok don't worry about it. Just wanted to see something.

Says a great deal about you.

[Jerry]

All this man is stating is what the TCs did to counter enosis...

No he isn't. He's stating the opposite.

Which came first enosis or taksim? we all know it was enosis and it has been the root of all your problems.....you people are the ones in denial.

Have you ever asked yourself why the Greek Cypriots wanted Enosis, do you think it's just possible that they wanted the security that union with Greece would offer against a return of Turkish oppression. The Turkish Cypriots knew that they could drag a willing Turkey into the fray if they appeared to become victims of the GCs, they would never have tried it if the island was more distant from Anatolia.

You need to go back one more step to figure out the reason for Enosis.

But your enosis goal had a knock on effect, if a large portion of your population is against gifting their country to another which they viewed as dangerous, oppressive and undersirable then of course they fight back with whatever they have to stop which they saw as a barbaric move. Now do you get it? if you back then in place od enosis encouraged one country one people then you would have had 100% support of the TC population and TA would not be here. Please try and step back and take blame for your share of the current situation.

With Turkey tugging away at the island and the likes of Denktash telling you what to do I doubt if there was ever any chance you supporting the Greek Cypriots. Many GCs do accept a share of the blame, mistakes have been made by both sides but the impression one gets from people like you is that we are solely to blame and we deserve to lose our rights and our property as a punishment.

Now, be honest, tell us what is your share of the blame

[Viewpoint]

You didnt actually state any specifics like enosis being the biggest mistake you GCs ever made and is the root of series of events that followed.

You are wrong I do not support people losing their properties and if a solution does come about everyone should be given options as far as it is physically possible, eg property return, compensation or alternative property. The average TCs also think this way believe me.

Of course TCs accept their share of the blame, its never one sided, we regret the deaths and hardship of innocent people who really had nothing to do with the struggle but were caught up in the crossfire.

[Jerry]

You didnt actually state any specifics like enosis being the biggest mistake you GCs ever made and is the root of series of events that followed.

You are wrong I do not support people losing their properties and if a solution does come about everyone should be given options as far as it is physically possible, eg property return, compensation or alternative property. The average TCs also think this way believe me.

Of course TCs accept their share of the blame, its never one sided, we regret the deaths and hardship of innocent people who really had nothing to do with the struggle but were caught up in the crossfire.

With hindsight Enosis may have been a mistake but to 80% of the population it seemed like a good idea at the time. One could say that the arrival of and domination by Turkey for 300 years was the root cause, how far should one go back?

So, you don't support the theft of our property but Turkish Cypriots have connived in and profited from the sale of what is ours, you have stood by whilst our homes were given away to illegal immigrants. Are you going to kick out these interlopers so that some of us can return or do you intend to use them to boost your claim to more than 18% of the island.

Specifically what is your share of the blame? Christofias accepted some blame and apologised, when will Eroglu do the same?

[Viewpoint]

You didnt actually state any specifics like enosis being the biggest mistake you GCs ever made and is the root of series of events that followed.

You are wrong I do not support people losing their properties and if a solution does come about everyone should be given options as far as it is physically possible, eg property return, compensation or alternative property. The average TCs also think this way believe me.

Of course TCs accept their share of the blame, its never one sided, we regret the deaths and hardship of innocent people who really had nothing to do with the struggle but were caught up in the crossfire.

With hindsight Enosis may have been a mistake but to 80% of the population it seemed like a good idea at the time. One could say that the arrival of and domination by Turkey for 300 years was the root cause, how far should one go back?

So, you don't support the theft of our property but Turkish Cypriots have connived in and profited from the sale of what is ours, you have stood by whilst our homes were given away to illegal immigrants. Are you going to kick out these interlopers so that some of us can return or do you intend to use them to boost your claim to more than 18% of the island.

Specifically what is your share of the blame? Christofias accepted some blame and apologised, when will Eroglu do the same?

Theres no "may" have been about it, your blindness in demanding enosis was the reason you lost your properties and the sooner you come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone concerned.

I agree that a solution should mean that rights properties are given back where possible if settlers are there then they will either leave or be rehoused if they are given the right to stay in a united Cyprus, if its physically not viabale then compensation or a similarly valued property should be offered in its place. Do you agree the same for the TCs?

[Jerry]

Theres no "may" have been about it, your blindness in demanding enosis was the reason you lost your properties and the sooner you come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone concerned.

Back to the twisted logic and threats I see, I wondered how long it would take, the freely expressed democratic right of 18% of the population imposed on the overwhelming majority, you are a laugh a minute VP.

[Viewpoint]

Theres no "may" have been about it, your blindness in demanding enosis was the reason you lost your properties and the sooner you come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone concerned.

Back to the twisted logic and threats I see, I wondered how long it would take, the freely expressed democratic right of 18% of the population imposed on the overwhelming majority, you are a laugh a minute VP.

Threats where when who? you see things the way you want to see them and you do not want to see that enosis is the litmus to all your problems.

Do you know what a revolt is? when and why it happens? now try and understand what really happened back then.

[Demonax]

your blindness in demanding enosis was the reason you lost your properties and the sooner you come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone concerned.

Congratulations, VP. A post that manages to be both stupid and pathetic.

It's not a surprise that you should try and enter the fray on this thread. When someone demolishes your cherished illusions, you think the best form of defence is to restate the myths - only even more vehemently. But no-one is buying anymore.

I doubt that even you believe the nonsense you post here anymore.

[Maximus]

your blindness in demanding enosis was the reason you lost your properties and the sooner you come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone concerned.

what is this rubbish gibberish.

Your blindness in opposing enosis was the reason why you invaded, murdered, raped, destroyed and stole. The sooner you come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone concerned.

[Viewpoint]

your blindness in demanding enosis was the reason you lost your properties and the sooner you come to terms with it the better it will be for everyone concerned.

Congratulations, VP. A post that manages to be both stupid and pathetic.

It's not a surprise that you should try and enter the fray on this thread. When someone demolishes your cherished illusions, you think the best form of defence is to restate the myths - only even more vehemently. But no-one is buying anymore.

I doubt that even you believe the nonsense you post here anymore.

enosis = taksim = division = reality = truth, no one expects you to understand let alone accept the truth.