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[Maximus]

i vote for two seperate states in the EU with vast territorial adjustments and all srettlers and foreign troops leaving the two cypriot states.

What you mean give the invaded portion immediate EU membership?? Like hell.

you keep refering to the invaded part,but the tc owned property in the south that will pass to the ROC.AS A community were they not entitled to a portion of state land as well?

THe EU will decide on EU memebership for the North.

Boulio,

In other words, the GC's are qualified but the TC's are not. You cannot leave the TC's to administer the north without going through an accession process.

It could be simpler. When the occupation ends the legitimate authorities can administer and look after their own country and enforce the EU acquis island-wide.

Look at Turkey's EU accession process. What if the TC's cant/wont qualify or go about it in a similar fashion?

[bill cobbett]

i vote for two seperate states in the EU with vast territorial adjustments and all srettlers and foreign troops leaving the two cypriot states.

What kind of "territorial adjustments" for example?

im looking at a 80-20% split in territory,basically the north would need to return roughly about 1500 sq km of land

BillC won't vote in this poll as he won't have a vote in any referenda but would say...

Yes, 80:20 would be a more than generous equitable Territory Settlement, with the proviso that the only guarantee against secessions is a geographically multi-zonal or cantonal settlement.

By the way... events in Corrupt and Authoritarian Turkey over the past year should be showing some of you how terribly useful Zonal Boundaries would be, to keep out these influences from the Free Areas.

[Maximus]

All of Cyprus will become free areas Bill,

people will be able to move freely even under a zonal arrangement.

[boulio]

unfortunatley the only way all of cyprus becomes free is thru the use of arms.

[Get Real!]

All of Cyprus will become free areas Bill,

people will be able to move freely even under a zonal arrangement.

You seem to have this daft fantasy that the Cyprus Problem is all about people’s inability to move “freely” in and out of “zones”!

[Get Real!]

unfortunatley the only way all of cyprus becomes free is thru the use of arms.

Exactly... via the same way it was enslaved.

[boulio]

unfortunatley the only way all of cyprus becomes free is thru the use of arms.

Exactly... via the same way it was enslaved.

maybe right after the invasion thru the 1977-79 agreements there could have been a gurrilla war against the turkish army but 40 years later people have gone on with their lives and have become complacent or lazy.

[Get Real!]

Maybe we could make Maximus the “Zone Master” where he’d drive around from gate to gate with a big set of keys hanging from his waist and make announcements as people come and go:

“You are now departing Sector 7G and entering Sector 5F. Please wait while the gate master enables your access! All sectors belonging to Cluster 3XY are under the command of Maximus!”

[bill cobbett]

All of Cyprus will become free areas Bill,

people will be able to move freely even under a zonal arrangement.

To be realistic Maxi... any turkish-speaking zone or zones will be very heavily influenced by a mix of Kemalism, Turkish Nationalism and an increasing Islamisation .

Many would be very, very fearful that these would limit western-style Freedoms. Limitations that must be kept out of what will be the Free Zones.

[Maximus]

All of Cyprus will become free areas Bill,

people will be able to move freely even under a zonal arrangement.

To be realistic Maxi... any turkish-speaking zone or zones will be very heavily influenced by a mix of Kemalism, Turkish Nationalism and an increasing Islamisation .

Many would be very, very fearful that these would limit western-style Freedoms. Limitations that must be kept out of what will be the Free Zones.

I agree with this, but then what is the point of unification via a BBF? Why lock yourself into "political equality" and share an international personality with kemalism, Islamic turkic nationalism etc?

It just does not sound worth it or realistic.